Kando Dynamics Turbo

[GTScotT]

Still shows that there arent any restrictions

Realistically I think the 20G would just about suit anyone wanting a balls out responsive 260rwkw, maybe more.

I think it would better HKS GTRS results to be honest, thats $3000 worth of kit to be had for $800 on ebay.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

Still shows that there arent any restrictions

Realistically I think the 20G would just about suit anyone wanting a balls out responsive 260rwkw, maybe more.

I think it would better HKS GTRS results to be honest, thats $3000 worth of kit to be had for $800 on ebay.

this. i'd definately try it if i didn't already have a 2835!

[Harey]

Yeah the TD06SL2 has the same exhaust wheel and housing as a T67 but with 20g compressor and housing to suit. I would still think a T67 would be better on a RB25 and the SL2 for a RB20

410kw was a little bit of a piss take with correction on... More realistically it makes 390kw on a hub dyno and 360rwkw on a dyno dynamics roller

I notice you run a Z32 AFM in the cooler piping, do you run a 4" intake off the T67?

[SimonR32]

I notice you run a Z32 AFM in the cooler piping, do you run a 4" intake off the T67?

Yes, there should be engine bay shots somewhere in this thread...

Actually I blew a the silicon off the AFM on friday night which was a bitch. The only pipe that can't have welded tabs to hold the hose clamp on (because it's plastic) dammit!

In other news, drags tomorrow night. Won't be a good time I don't think because the standard suspension can't be refitted due to alignment changes but will raise my coilovers and use MT ET street and see what mph I can run at least

Edited March 22, 2011 by SimonR32

[Lithium]

Simon - I'd appreciate your thoughts on this. Remember our $ is weak as anything compared to yours if you freak at the price..

I did some road tuning on an R34 RB25DET powered R32 yesterday which is running some Chinese T3/T4 and found the thing was maxed out at 1.1bar, the owner wants 300wkw on pump gas with streetability but like everyone doesn't want to spend thousands - was thinking of suggesting this turbo as an option with 10cm housing if its anything like yours:

http://www.drivenperformance.co.nz/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=1810

[SimonR32]

Simon - I'd appreciate your thoughts on this. Remember our $ is weak as anything compared to yours if you freak at the price..

I did some road tuning on an R34 RB25DET powered R32 yesterday which is running some Chinese T3/T4 and found the thing was maxed out at 1.1bar, the owner wants 300wkw on pump gas with streetability but like everyone doesn't want to spend thousands - was thinking of suggesting this turbo as an option with 10cm housing if its anything like yours:

http://www.drivenperformance.co.nz/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=1810

I was in Auckland a few weeks ago so I know what your dollar is like (actually I took money from your economy because I won like $350 at the casino during a 15 hour stopover haha)

That turbo has the same badge as mine (Kinugawa) so it would be manufactured in the same place and I imagine would be just as good quality but it's not the same specs. It has a much bigger exhaust wheel and a different trimmed front wheel. Plus the front housing is different as well.

That is not the one to buy... You can buy the same as mine from ebay http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Turbochargeri-Kinugawa-T67-25G-T3-10-cm-V-Band-Housing-/270717916046?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f080b938e#ht_2530wt_1139 or do what I did and email them direct and ask for the best price [email protected] then pay via paypal!

It only took 3-4 days to get mine delivered so it's nice and quick and I got it for about $100 off the ebay price

[Lithium]

Awesome, thanks man

[GTScotT]

this. i'd definately try it if i didn't already have a 2835!

Exactly, this is my answer to the 2835 which I cannot find/afford. Just reference the two states sources, Simons T67 results (for hot side) and all evo 20g results (for power/response indication).

Power and response can ONLY be better going up to a 2.5L limited by the exhaust side choking, enter Simons results.

We have a winner.

Once Im back from my first overseas trip ever, Ill be buying one. Best thing is that even if Kando fold up, mitsu sell all their tooling from panels to turbos so there are more suppliers of mitsubishi turbo parts than you can poke a stick at.

Hyundai motors are all ex mitsu tooling, which is why a hyundai motor is the cheapest way to do a 4G63 conversion lol.

[DVS JEZ]

Yes, there should be engine bay shots somewhere in this thread...

Actually I blew a the silicon off the AFM on friday night which was a bitch. The only pipe that can't have welded tabs to hold the hose clamp on (because it's plastic) dammit!

In other news, drags tomorrow night. Won't be a good time I don't think because the standard suspension can't be refitted due to alignment changes but will raise my coilovers and use MT ET street and see what mph I can run at least

Dont be too stressed about coilovers. My old drift

S13 ran 11.0 @127mph on full drift setup. And had used mt et streets. 1.65 60ft launch.

[battery]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Turbochargeri-Kinugawa-T67-25G-T3-10-cm-V-Band-Housing-/270717916046?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f080b938e#ht_2530wt_1139

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290537679621&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

Difference between these two?????

pretty sure I got the cheaper one, ill check when i get home...

[SimonR32]

Can't view the second one because it has ended... But there were 2 listing that were the same turbo today but slightly different names in the title

[Harey]

Exactly, this is my answer to the 2835 which I cannot find/afford. Just reference the two states sources, Simons T67 results (for hot side) and all evo 20g results (for power/response indication).

Power and response can ONLY be better going up to a 2.5L limited by the exhaust side choking, enter Simons results.

How is the T67 the answer to the HKS 2835? I thought they would be in different categories. The dynosheets in post #154 show that it is less responsive than a 3076. The 2835 is more responsive than a 3076 again. In the HKS range I would equate it closer to a 3037.

2835 full boost ~3500rpm

3076 full boost ~3800-4000rpm

T67 full boost 4200-4400rpm

[JKR-32]

How is the T67 the answer to the HKS 2835? I thought they would be in different categories. The dynosheets in post #154 show that it is less responsive than a 3076. The 2835 is more responsive than a 3076 again. In the HKS range I would equate it closer to a 3037.

2835 full boost ~3500rpm

3076 full boost ~3800-4000rpm

T67 full boost 4200-4400rpm

I believe they are talking about the TD06SL2

[SimonR32]

I believe they are talking about the TD06SL2

Yes they were...

Plus 3076R full boost is more like 100rpm less than T67 not more

[scotty nm35]

What is full boost? 10, 15, 30psi?

[SimonR32]

What is full boost? 10, 15, 30psi?

For fags that run 3076R's probably 15psi while I like to run 26 haha

[GTScotT]

I believe they are talking about the TD06SL2

Its the same thing, TD06SL2 and T67 are refering to the turbine wheel. Its the same wheel. Same size same design etc.

When trust do their thing and rebadge the turbo as their own they call the TD06SL2 wheel a T67. Generally because it was trust who mated it to a 25G compressor and called it a T67, not Mitsubishi.

To he who questioned how it applies to a 2835, I have clearly stated the 20g compressor mated to the SL2 turbine wheel (T67) has been shown to spool incredibly well on a 2L motor when using a 10.5cm housing. The SL2 has also been shown to flow very high numbers, with ease, on simons car.

The 20g compressor is 68mm, it is smaller and in theory will spool faster than the 71mm GT35 used on the 2835 and 3071. It also flows 450hp.

2 and 2 somehow make 4, Im just waiting to secure my own 20g and proove the theory on paper. Hopefully will order one next week.

[discopotato03]

Be a little carefull comparing Evolution Mitsy turbos to other MHI based things because the Evos 4-10 use twin scroll turbine housings and thats makes a significant difference .

Possibly the people to talk to are GT Pumps because they seem to have a good handle on the various Mitsubishi 6 series turbines and TD05/6/7 compressor wheels .

You will find an interesting mix of TD06 family turbines ie TD06-SL2 TD06 TD06S TD06H TD06SH and TE06 .

They can have from memory 11 or 12 blades and I think Mark has most/all on display at his shop .

Where Mitsy is different from Garretts GT BB wheel rage seems to be with trim sizes . To me it looks like Garrett leaned towards big turbine trim sizes and at times compressors too . HKS seemed to take advantage of optioning Garrett compressors of the same families but in smaller trims at times . Importantly they also - oops the signals have cleared and gotta go

More termorrer cheers A .

[SimonR32]

Well only got one full pass in before ANDRA decided to kick me out..

11.03 @ 132.5mph

[t_revz]

because? too fast for no cage?