Just Got Defected..

[ashneel]

LOL at hamish

[R31Nismoid]

i know cops have the authority to defect a car based on an observation of unroadworthiness and the right to report you to the EPA based on an observation of the car being below emmisions standards .... but i wonder if they have the right to order a vass engineers certificate!

Of course they do - who else would have you do it?

They've been doing it for years now

[krzysiu]

Of course they do - who else would have you do it?

They've been doing it for years now

So the police. As stupid as some can be are qualified to ask you to get a vass certificate? That's f**ked up. Before any cop does a check on your car ask them if they have completed the according training and have the certificate with then that they can do a rwc check. Has caught out a few cops in my time they cbf calling tmu so I left.

[bdizzle]

kyle i been thinking about it.. so you can get ya defect cleared, i'll take your rims and Trust DD off ur hands for free.. it was a hard decision to make but hook me up.

Edited December 30, 2010 by SPL1CE

[RBLUV]

Another cool story, sorry buddy id rather sell them to someone whod actually use them,

on topic so has anyone actually had any experience with this guy?

[R31Nismoid]

So the police. As stupid as some can be are qualified to ask you to get a vass certificate? That's f**ked up. Before any cop does a check on your car ask them if they have completed the according training and have the certificate with then that they can do a rwc check. Has caught out a few cops in my time they cbf calling tmu so I left.

Oh come on you already knew they could

EG 1. The old cooler hole in the engine bay on a Airbag equipped car.

Police have been citing cars for YEARS over that issue. And honestly - how else would you get pinned for it?

99.9% of people are not going to own up to a modification that requires a VASS like that.

EG 2. People also do illegal engine swaps.

More common than you might think, and again well illegal in many ways in accordance with current laws.

Whilst one may not agree, one must agree there is method and purpose to it.

Also ANY officer can defect ANY car. You just have to know what the LAW is. It's not about who can/can not defect a car.

If a run of the mill officer in a Divvy van knew the law, they are well within their rights to defect you and cite a VASS cert.

[baby34]

If you get defected, YOU DESERVE IT, DON'T BREAK THE FQN LAW. Damn kids breaking the law. Its there for a reason.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

[MUZT3K]

In theory you'd assume so.

However VicRoads don't care. Sometimes they wont even ask to see the car.

Just give them the RWC, hand in defect - cleared and drive home.

Just depends on the person on the day if they actually want to inspect it, but no, i wouldnt see a reason to require the specific things listed.

Most places do them for that price, some cheaper ($65-$70)

My overall pricing was 200/300 simply because id take a stab the car isn't 100% perfect.

Most cars aren't. Steering rack leaks and so on are common.

yeah, when i had a major defect...got a roadworthy after the time had expired so i couldnt drive it to vicroads, so i called up and i told them the situation and they said for major defects you dont need to bring your car in, only the papers.

and thankgod i aint on the roads...this period there are tmu everywhere.

[MUZT3K]

If you get defected, YOU DESERVE IT, DON'T BREAK THE FQN LAW. Damn kids breaking the law. Its there for a reason.

what...because eg. he wants a boost controller in his car, he derserves a defect, now his a bad person? sorry buddy but your on the wrong forum if your going to be telling people not to have mods and that he deserves it.

no one deserves to cop a defect, the laws are just fkd.

[Ruffels]

I understand gtr's have the hole for the fmic from the factory... but if you set your car up in the same fashion that gtr's do, why can't it be engineered? r33' and r34 gtr's have airbags too

[RDirty24door]

I understand gtr's have the hole for the fmic from the factory... but if you set your car up in the same fashion that gtr's do, why can't it be engineered? r33' and r34 gtr's have airbags too

It can be engineered. the reason they defect cars that have no ring welded around where the piping comes through under your battery tray is because they believe that it reduces the cars frontal impact thus making it crush easily. apparently thats why.

[Gazzilla]

Who was the Police officer that Defected you?

[Birds]

Or we could get a return flow cooler that they can't defect for shit...

Yeah cops defect alot of minor shit pointlessly, handbrake click stories etc. and the whole reason they pulled you over in the first place was to try and find something wrong with your car...but you can make the job very hard for them. It's part and parcel with owning a modified import, as are these threads with import forums I guess

[RBLUV]

i knew the defect was coming, my wheels are rediculous and it is definately too low, but engineers? what does he think im stupid enough to take the car there as is and try and get it engineered? i dont see the reasoning behind it just a waste of my time and money, i would have thought a roadworthy would be all i need as the car would have got a vass certificate when it entered the country and i DONT want to engineer any modifications, the car is stock.

[llama_au]

i knew the defect was coming, my wheels are rediculous and it is definately too low, but engineers? what does he think im stupid enough to take the car there as is and try and get it engineered? i dont see the reasoning behind it just a waste of my time and money, i would have thought a roadworthy would be all i need as the car would have got a vass certificate when it entered the country and i DONT want to engineer any modifications, the car is stock.

You've answered your own question. The reason he's making you do it is that it's a waste of time and money, with the thought that you won't want to do it again (which you inevitably will if you put it back to the way it was.)

Cars don't get VASS certificates when they enter the country, they get complianced. Entirely different scheme.

[R31Nismoid]

i knew the defect was coming, my wheels are rediculous and it is definately too low, but engineers? what does he think im stupid enough to take the car there as is and try and get it engineered? i dont see the reasoning behind it just a waste of my time and money, i would have thought a roadworthy would be all i need as the car would have got a vass certificate when it entered the country and i DONT want to engineer any modifications, the car is stock.

As Juliette said - you were slapped with a VASS so that you were forced to either get it fixed, or pull everything off and have it taken back to a factory state.

Hence the time and money thing. If you were able to just get a dodgy RWC, you'd never learn.

They are trying to make you understand the law, but it seems like it's not going to work either

So expect to get reported and sent for another VASS if you put all the mods back on again.

$1200+ = expensive lesson not to learn for a car worth probably 8-12k

Either get legal, or enjoy being reamed i guess...

[Mohsen]

Or we could get a return flow cooler that they can't defect for shit...

Yeah cops defect alot of minor shit pointlessly, handbrake click stories etc. and the whole reason they pulled you over in the first place was to try and find something wrong with your car...but you can make the job very hard for them. It's part and parcel with owning a modified import, as are these threads with import forums I guess

this

[bozodos]

it's times like these that I'm really glad I live in the country and don't drive when the cops do their all to predictable blitzes.

Well that and the other thing I've learned is that most are farking lazy so if you're driving in the right hand lane they generally cbf pulling you over unless you have some kind of attention seeking mod or are out for your arse!

The other thing I've found is that you can get away with so much more if your car and the bits on it looks like a filthy pig most of the time

[femno]

so yeah less talk more action...so we know what happens