15 year old GTR sceptics

[lwells]

EnricoPalazzo is right ... the difference is $3500 or so between SEVS and non-SEVS. Ok you do maybe have to factor in cost of replacement genuine pads, tyres, etc under SEVS which adds up, but its shouldn't be a killer if you really want a *nice* GTR and can afford it.

Last time I checked nobody had plates for the R32, and the cost is likely to be closer to $5k since the government is so ineffecient at approving workshop's applications and thus plates are likely to be in limited supply.

LW.

[predator]

yeah.. you're right too lwells I've heard RAWS compliance plates are rare as hens teeth and the number of people that want to bring in a SEVS GTR won't be matched by the supply. Something will give eventually. Gotta loove our government...

[EnricoPalazzo]

if u read my post properly u would see i wrote "when sevs is fully implemented" as i know its not happenin at the moment.

Also not baggin people, but people can be a whole lot more helpful when they want ur money then afterwards. I have had first hand and more experience than u have, and also 3 of my mates also had the same story to tell.

[lwells]

if u read my post properly u would see i wrote "when sevs is fully implemented" as i know its not happenin at the moment.

Well that really depends how committed the government actually is to the SEVS scheme. Personally I think its more about protecting local industry, but I can understand the arguements for it particularly in regards to vehicle quality (edit: in fact I have argued for SEVS on this very point). However, you would notice I haven't actually argued against SEVS... And I have been reading your posts quite closely.

As I said, Geoff has a quite clear vested interest. But I also gave you a direct example from just last week of him suggesting I not buy a car. Since he already has my money sitting in his bank account, if he was really just after the money do you think he would have told me to avoid the car?

Anyway, I didn't mean to cause an arguement, just that my personal experience does not tally with your comment.

LW.

[EnricoPalazzo]

i do agree with u thou about the govt. I mean who knows wat they will do. This whole sevs thing has slowed the import industry bad, hence importers have had to rely heavily on the 15 yo rule. So in heindsight, it was the govts fault.

Back to geoff, i agree he does choose good cars, hey im happy with mine, just that i thought he service was somewhat lacking after i made my purchase.

Good luck with the car. Cyas

[Stirlo_GTR]

Enrico All I can say mate is BS. I have had nothing but exceptional service from Geoff, and My Dad also bought a car through him (92' soarer) based on his integrity and level of service He delivered to me durring the importation of my car. He Offers an exceptional system to import a car and a guide to this process, he services more customers than you probably considered. Primarily his business is based around and the 15yr rule and should it change it will be economically BAD for his buisness, so it stands to reason he would have a vested interest in the rule not changing. If you were in the same situation look what you would do..

I know I would not trust any car dealer in australia more than I would trust Geoff's word.

What Myself and my dad bought was definatly True to his word.

Do not slander people on this boad if you have a personal issue with a business. I am sure that he did the best to his ability to help you.

Amaru there was more too your issues than you have lead on...

i totally agree with u pred. the problem is the people importing them, for example the mass mailing lists that i get flooding my email everyday.

so unsubscribe!!!!

the problem is they are so gready to make as much money as they can, that they are using other aussies to try and convince the govt to stop the 15yo changes. Haha but no one realises that they only want this so that they can keep making money.

sorry for running a buisness.. magority of His clients are very happy

and this has been oh so evident this last few months when every 89 year model crap condition car has been on there mailing lists.

there is actually MARKET for lower quality cars... If a import/dealer wish's to buy these to repair and sell it is on thier head not Geoff.

I might also add that as you know he takes a flat rate it is no advantage to him to sell you a dud, and repaet business/referal is a big one for him so it is in his best interest to get you what you want.

I dont belive it is relative to bring dealers or agents into this discussion, and you must be aware of the re-pocussions of doing this.

[EnricoPalazzo]

haha, i said when i bought my car, he was good, and i was happy with my car, yet this after sale service lacked.

I think atm, hes gone overboard with the 15yo cars to make as much money he can b4 its stopped.

[funkymonkey]

What was even more amusing was when he told some of his customers who had cars ready for import (in his free car storage facility) that he couldn't import em any more when the rules changed in October... people who then had to go thru another importer

But nuff bout that.

One of the main reasons that I wouldn't pick a 1989 GTR over a post 1991 GTR is that it simply lacks about 40% of the refinement and extras that were offered on the latter models. (And yes I've read extensively the jap car manuals/reviews, FAST and nissan brochures.) From the compression in the engine to the trim of the interior to the type of coolant in the A/C they were all changed.

Its like the difference between buying a S1 R33 and an S2 R33.

Also in japan its compulsory that every 10 years that you have to do a major rehaul of the car. Most people avoid this by derego'ing their carat 9.99 years or selling it. You'd be extremely unlucky to get a 1989 GTR that hadn't had a rehaul. They basically take the engine out of the car and give it a very thorough checkout before its given the OK. So theoretically it should be as safe as driving a 5 yr old car. However just like Aus, there are shonky services in japan too. So you never know.

The onus is on you to make sure you know what you are doing, and if you end up with a lemon, you shouldn't try to blame anyone else but yourself. Most importers have a procedure to import... find a car, offer it for sale, get an interested party, contact agent in japan, get em to check out car, get further info on the car for cust, get a max bid from cust, give the bid to agent plus his fee, agent bids on car, collects car, arranges for delivery to port and derego + taxes, car boards ship, cust pays shipping fee + duties to pay in aust etc, ship arrives in au, importer in the meantime files docs to canberra for import, car is cleared by customs, car leaves port to compliancer, compliancer gets tick from engineer, plates are put on car, car is rego'd, importer collects fee, importer hands over key to cust.... That's just the gist of it, there's a lot more involved, esp after sales service. 80% of the time this process gets you a good car, the crucial steps to ensure it being the first few where the inspection is done. Make sure the agent that the importer uses is credible, is a qualified mechanic, and knows his car, and will go over it with a fine comb.