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Hmmm meeting at the BP means driving all the way down here and then all the way back, if you are closer to brisbane just meet the brissie crew at milton maccas, be easier for you.

I still dunno if strutto is going so might just be Belgarion coming up from here to meet you guys as i was catching a lift with him.

Ah just got the word he is picking me up so anyone from GC meet at Yatala at 7:30pm and we'll cruise up to the shell!

C yas there!

That reminds me of way back when .. when i was out at a drift spot with about 40 cars, and this guy .. forget his name, was drifting his na silvia and ripped a donut (think his name was michael) too close to some skylines, and srapyed rocks up at one of the mularkaz (sp?) paint jobs (the wogs from subzero) and there was this big argument and the dude got his keys thrown off a cliff and his head punched in..

then the next day werds were exchanged and the mulackers came by and shot up the back of his silvia..

then that night he got all his boys and the headed down to subzero to fight them but the moolarkers wouldnt front .. and thats when i came over with my little crew to watch the fight, and they mistook my crew for the muluckers and we see about 60 guys coming at us with baseball bats and shotguns and axes and stuff..

quite a good luch now looking back at it ..

but pretty piss poor reason to go get your car shot up

Yeah strutto made sure he was facing you all before whipping around :D

Nope it didnt rain, tried to spat a bit, wonderful shots should be provided by strutto when he gets home so cant wait for them :D

Funny how one cop can make so many people rush for their cars and head for the hills, which is what happened after we got to milton.

Going through the ICB behind NA_R33 is definatly an experiance, his car sounds sooooo sweet! Then watching him dance towards the concrete barrier was fun, lucky he knows how to dance :D

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