Question For Those Who Have Aftermarket Coilpacks

[dewa32]

Hello,

Recently had a Rocker Cover leak and changed over the gaskets. While doing this i thought it'd be a good time to change the coilpacks and spark plugs, as they were highly fragile and covered in oil from the leak.

After having to replace the original wires leading from the packs to the box (because they were rooted and seemed to have a different plug than the aftermarket ones) i found that the plug was also different that connects to the ignition box.

Having found that the wires are exact same colouration as the stock plug i just swapped plugs over making sure not to mix up any wires. This hasn't seemed to have work as when going to start the car up it seems to have its ignition out of cycle.

Anyone delt with this before or changed to aftermarket coilpacks that can help me out.

Thanks dewa32

Note: Pic comparing plugs is comparing the 6 pin to the 7 pin and not the one i've spliced.

[GravyGarage]

My splitfires plugged straight into the factory loom...

Need more info, you sure you bought the right coil packs?

[Nic_A31]

Series 1 Cefiro use a unique ignition loom (inc ignition module itself)

Series 2 and 3 used the same loom as R32 Skylines.

You can buy both types of loom for the Cefiro new via Nissan.

S1

http://www.justjap.c...369&cat=&page=1

S2 onwards

http://www.justjap.c...871&cat=&page=1

I recall splitfire not having a listing that matched S1 Cefiro, so you'd need to get an R32 ignition module??, R32 loom, and coilpacks suit R32.

Quiet often, an R32 motor is chucked in, still using the Cefiro loom, plugs, ECU etc. That's how mine was anyway, when my coilpacks went it got a bit tricky - just wired up 32 plug to engine loom, and used complete R32 coilpack setup,.

Edited February 17, 2011 by Nic_A31

[dewa32]

<br />Series 1 Cefiro use a unique ignition loom (inc ignition module itself)<br /><br />Series 2 and 3 used the same loom as R32 Skylines.<br />You can buy both types of loom for the Cefiro new via Nissan.<br /><br />S1<br /><a href='http://www.justjap.com/store/product.php?productid=18369&cat=&page=1' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.justjap.c...369&cat=&page=1</a><br />S2 onwards<br /><a href='http://www.justjap.com/store/product.php?productid=17871&cat=&page=1' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.justjap.c...871&cat=&page=1</a><br /><br />I recall splitfire not having a listing that matched S1 Cefiro, so you'd need to get an R32 ignition module??, R32 loom, and coilpacks suit R32.<br />Quiet often, an R32 motor is chucked in, still using the Cefiro loom, plugs, ECU etc. That's how mine was anyway, when my coilpacks went it got a bit tricky - just wired up 32 plug to engine loom, and used complete R32 coilpack setup,.<br />

Car is a 1991 Nissan Cefiro Series 1 by the look of the lights and grill. Which came from the factory with Rb20det. Car has not received any mods apart from r34 smic, pod filter and now the new coilpacks and has not been tampered with in regards to Loom changes (by the look of things)

With what you've writen there nic, I just have to get an r32 ignition module, and plug then rewire the loom side to the r32 plug?? Coilpacks are new, but were fitted to an RB20 in a s13 with r32 loom.

Cheers

Edited February 17, 2011 by dewa32

[Nic_A31]

1991 is Series 2, so that's weird.

Biggest give away. Is your AFM an R32 one (green label, J60) or square plug (purple label, N60)

And yes, get an R32 module and the plug for the engine loom side, and wire that into your engine loom. Essentially, ECU Loom->R32 Plug->R32 Ignition Module->R32 Subloom->R32 Coilpacks.

[dewa32]

1991 is Series 2, so that's weird.

Biggest give away. Is your AFM an R32 one (green label, J60) or square plug (purple label, N60)

And yes, get an R32 module and the plug for the engine loom side, and wire that into your engine loom. Essentially, ECU Loom->R32 Plug->R32 Ignition Module->R32 Subloom->R32 Coilpacks.

true, well its got the series 1 gear, Also its a 'Special Edition' no idea what that means but could be the difference.

AFM is a purple label N60.

Will that need changing also or am i good just to replace loom and ignition module, as i already have subloom and coilpacks.

And do i need the whole loom or can i get away with splicing the r32 plug up to ceffy loom?

Thanks heaps Nic_A31

Edited February 18, 2011 by dewa32

[Nic_A31]

Afm plug is fine. N60 is a better Afm which the series 1 have.

Best bet would be a new coilpack loom. The heat makes them brittle and breakdown, so a new loom will definately help and be less probs down the track.

[dewa32]

1991 is Series 2, so that's weird.

Biggest give away. Is your AFM an R32 one (green label, J60) or square plug (purple label, N60)

And yes, get an R32 module and the plug for the engine loom side, and wire that into your engine loom. Essentially, ECU Loom->R32 Plug->R32 Ignition Module->R32 Subloom->R32 Coilpacks.

hey mate, i have just got a new coilpack loom thats no problem. MY problem is wiring the loom side up to thing, Can a A31 ceffy loom be wire for wire spliced into r32 plug then into r32 module?

Sorry about all the questions but yeah stuff me why nissan made the silver top run on s13 / r31 coilpacks other than the normal silver top plugs :S

[Nic_A31]

Yeah that's no problem.

Chop the 32 plug off and wire into ceffy loom. Just match wires color for color.

Thats how one of my Ceffies was running for a while.

[dewa32]

mate went colour to colour and when i tried to turn her on it cranks over but sits really low revs and sounds like its not firing properly, When i put the throttle down too it doesnt rev up or anything also. all wires have been colour matched and plugged into the r32 module. What the hell ? :S

[Nic_A31]

Sounds like ignition module.

Let it idle for a minute or so? usually faulty modules overheat and cut out after 30+ seconds.

[dewa32]

firing order is out a little or major misfire (by what it sounds like) It didn't die in idle, and i also checked the ignitor pack for heat because i thought i got the wiring for it was wrong but it didnt get hot, and all wires are colour to colour :S

Do you still think it could be the ignitor pack?

That being said it was only on for abour 30-40 seconds

Edited February 23, 2011 by dewa32

[Nic_A31]

Try again for 2 mins and try another module. Also check the ground wires

[dewa32]

Try again for 2 mins and try another module. Also check the ground wires

Had a look at the cefiro coilpack loom and the r32 loom, and found out they had different colours going to different coilpacks. Had to swap green and blue, and white and yellow and redid all the grounds and she turns over no problem... So weird, Even they were matched colour to colour, plug for plug, there was still differences in Coilpack Looms :S. Tsk tsk Nissan. Cheers for all the help Nic_A31