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^ no, he's not...

i'd contact Access Auto as they had the BSC (or whatever they were called) brake guys right next door - they have some in-house developed brakes on their Evo X from memory, they'll definitely be able to point you in the right direction as well.

Race Brakes like many professional places will generally turn away business if they think what you are asking them to do is not in line with their usual practice. Sometimes this is related to the brands of parts you want to use, or the cheap/perhaps less safe option you are trying to chase. But if you pay his proces and go with their kits and listen to their advice then people dont generally get upset. :)

But regarding dollars. Consider this.... labour to remove wheels, measure up hub, tie rod end, wheel clearances etc and then use the combination of rotor and caliper you are handing over. Then they will make up a dummy piece, trial fit then mod to suit or make the matching hat and mount. So on top of the hours of machining and trial fitting throw about $150 in material for the mount, and depending on the rotor size you can add about another $250 in material for the hats. (assuming you dont have to buy minimum quantities for your order and you are buying in bulk)

You can see why they charge about $450-550 for mounts...some places $650 a pair. And around ~$800-1000 for the hats a pair.

Also consider the mounting hardware to bolt the custom hat to the rotor is about $80-100. The high tensile fasteners for mounting radial mount to hub, then caliper to mount is about another $80-100. Then you need brake lines so say $250.

The only time it can be done a bit cheaper if you can provide drawings that are exact or at least a close first go so that they can mock up a dummy piece quickly and save them time consuming measurements and test fitting. My drawing for the mounts for my Stoptechs using 343mm rotors was about 6mm out in one plane but spot on for the other. Seems the Stoptechs are a little to Brembos and my new rotors a little different in hat height from the last rotors i used..so just waiting for them to get machined up now. Because i did a lot of work myself it worked out cheaper then an off the shelf kit

Race Brakes like many professional places will generally turn away business if they think what you are asking them to do is not in line with their usual practice. Sometimes this is related to the brands of parts you want to use, or the cheap/perhaps less safe option you are trying to chase. But if you pay his proces and go with their kits and listen to their advice then people dont generally get upset. :)

But regarding dollars. Consider this.... labour to remove wheels, measure up hub, tie rod end, wheel clearances etc and then use the combination of rotor and caliper you are handing over. Then they will make up a dummy piece, trial fit then mod to suit or make the matching hat and mount. So on top of the hours of machining and trial fitting throw about $150 in material for the mount, and depending on the rotor size you can add about another $250 in material for the hats. (assuming you dont have to buy minimum quantities for your order and you are buying in bulk)

You can see why they charge about $450-550 for mounts...some places $650 a pair. And around ~$800-1000 for the hats a pair.

Also consider the mounting hardware to bolt the custom hat to the rotor is about $80-100. The high tensile fasteners for mounting radial mount to hub, then caliper to mount is about another $80-100. Then you need brake lines so say $250.

The only time it can be done a bit cheaper if you can provide drawings that are exact or at least a close first go so that they can mock up a dummy piece quickly and save them time consuming measurements and test fitting. My drawing for the mounts for my Stoptechs using 343mm rotors was about 6mm out in one plane but spot on for the other. Seems the Stoptechs are a little to Brembos and my new rotors a little different in hat height from the last rotors i used..so just waiting for them to get machined up now. Because i did a lot of work myself it worked out cheaper then an off the shelf kit

Roy,

I am doing soemthng a bit similar. Have some drawings of what I need. Did you get Race Brakes to machine the adaptors or somewhere else? PM if you like.

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