1J And 2J Engine Flaws

[zebra]

As for the 26 head on a 30.....well that makes you sound rather daft.

RB26 head has 2 cams, 4 valves/cylinder solid lifters etc compared to the RB30 head which is SOHC 2 valve and hydraulic lifters

[Adelaideprosound]

  On 11/03/2011 at 8:16 AM, zebra said:

WTF calm down!

He said that an RB26 is 400cc smaller than a 2J

Also fow do you have no problems flowing over 1000hp when you havent made 1000hp yet?

A car that makes 510 kw at the wheels thats almost 700hp. Can you convert that to FLYWHEEL ENGINE POWER. Its very close to a 1000 because its going through a automatic tranmission you will need to add about 20% on that drivetrain loss so as you can seethe head is more than capable of FLOWING over a 1000hp. Dont confuse that with rear wheel horspower.

Also as far as me being DAFT i know the RB30 is a single cam head. I just used it as an example as to why people use hybrids.

And saying a head has CC ratings is stupid.

Edited March 11, 2011 by Adelaideprosound

[FineLine]

For those who claim a j engine sounds better than an RB, clean ya farken ears out. The j can scream but it cant snarl like an angry rb.

They are both amazing engines and can punch well above their weight. 1000 plus hp is achievable in either camp.

Yes the toyota can be made to handle, there are some fine examples of quick track cars around but you have to throw a shitload more coin at them to achieve it.

Drive what you like, they both outdo the local product by a wide margin but someone should have drowned the tool that designed the supra body.

[zebra]

  On 11/03/2011 at 8:26 AM, Adelaideprosound said:

A car that makes 510 kw at the wheels thats almost 700hp. Can you convert that to FLYWHEEL ENGINE POWER. Its very close to a 1000 because its going through a automatic tranmission you will need to add about 20% on that drivetrain loss so as you can seethe head is more than capable of FLOWING over a 1000hp. Dont confuse that with rear wheel horspower.

Also as far as me being DAFT i know the RB30 is a single cam head. I just used it as an example as to why people use hybrids.

And saying a head has CC ratings is stupid.

You said sequential gearbox for starters...but ill leave it there.

yeah yup...a head sure does have cc ratings....

Noel - you are old and your ears cant handle the 1jz scream

also the body is fine...the dash is gross...but Id live with it

[zebra]

And gogo gadget Soarers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKYIcLWAwR0&feature=related

[FineLine]

  On 11/03/2011 at 8:31 AM, zebra said:

You said sequential gearbox for starters...but ill leave it there.

yeah yup...a head sure does have cc ratings....

Noel - you are old and your ears cant handle the 1jz scream

You may be right Zeb, Even screamer pipes sound like a busted arse to me. The anger of a hot rb on the other hand gives me wood. (or as close as you can get to it at my age)

[Adelaideprosound]

  On 11/03/2011 at 8:31 AM, zebra said:

You said sequential gearbox for starters...but ill leave it there.

yeah yup...a head sure does have cc ratings....

Noel - you are old and your ears cant handle the 1jz scream

also the body is fine...the dash is gross...but Id live with it

You obviously dont know my car. If u think im lying head over to The Supraforums and check out the build page.

It has a fully built TOYOTA AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION built by MV automatics, with a spragless stage 3 kit new gears, b&m quick shifter and full manual valve body so it shifts sequentially.

But its still an auto box.

[Adelaideprosound]

A head has FLOW RATINGS not cc ratings. As i said the displacement of an engine is measured by bore size and stroke ratio of an engine.

[zebra]

The combustion chamber is measured in CC's....thats part of the head and can play a big role in how an engine performs.

Also port volumes are measured in CC's

Manual Valve bodies in an Auto does not make it a sequential box...its an Auto with a manual valve body

Anyway this isnt a thread about A340's so STFU now kthx

[T04GTR]

atleast the rb has a iron front pully not the craptastic alloy one that is a service item at 100k... all gthe 'warmed over" 2jz ive worked on have them cracked. but the kunt things never seem to mind....

[zebra]

Your talking about the Harmonic Balancer El Daveo?

I must check mine...got a bit of a vibration at idle and I dont know if the exhaust vibrating or the balancer.

[Adelaideprosound]

  On 11/03/2011 at 8:57 AM, zebra said:

The combustion chamber is measured in CC's....thats part of the head and can play a big role in how an engine performs.

Also port volumes are measured in CC's

Manual Valve bodies in an Auto does not make it a sequential box...its an Auto with a manual valve body

Anyway this isnt a thread about A340's so STFU now kthx

The combustion chamber is measured in cc's is it , Dude u have lost the plot. Anyway, you made it about A340's not me, so as far me shutting up make me. I dare u to try it.

And its not just a manual valve body its a whole gearset.

Edited March 11, 2011 by Adelaideprosound

[zebra]

My god.

No wonder I rarely venture to this part of the forum.

I live an breathe engines...so you go ahead and keep being incorrect and pulling your dick over your "sequential auto box" and I'll go on my merry way.

[Beelzeboss]

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The combustion chamber is measured in cc's is it , Dude u have lost the plot

... combustion chamber volume IS measured in cc's

[PaulosECR33]

  On 11/03/2011 at 9:46 AM, Adelaideprosound said:

The combustion chamber is measured in cc's is it , Dude u have lost the plot. Anyway, you made it about A340's not me, so as far me shutting up make me. I dare u to try it.

And its not just a manual valve body its a whole gearset.

autos are ghey

  On 11/03/2011 at 10:05 AM, Beelzeboss said:

... combustion chamber volume IS measured in cc's

+1

[KezR33]

How can you not love screamer pipes and 2JZ noise?

Hardly a stock Supra but damn it sounds good:

[Birds]

Thread delivers teh lulz. For the record most incarnations of 1.5jz come about when a 1jz powered vehicle has a 2jz bottom end bolted on to stroke it out 500cc. You'll seldom see it done the other way around, starting with a 2jz powered vehicle - only reason I can think of is that 1jz heads are probably cheaper...

[Mr Eps]

Hahaha this thread is about as gay as those farken Soarer owners I keep hearing about olololol

[Tony de Wonderful]

  On 11/03/2011 at 8:18 AM, zebra said:

As for the 26 head on a 30.....well that makes you sound rather daft.

RB26 head has 2 cams, 4 valves/cylinder solid lifters etc compared to the RB30 head which is SOHC 2 valve and hydraulic lifters

Well you'd put the 26 head on a 30 bottom end rather than a 26 head on an 30 head. A head on a head wouldn't make much power mate.

[Nee-san]

  On 11/03/2011 at 9:46 AM, Adelaideprosound said:

The combustion chamber is measured in cc's is it , Dude u have lost the plot. Anyway, you made it about A340's not me, so as far me shutting up make me. I dare u to try it.

And its not just a manual valve body its a whole gearset.

Alright Captain Ahab,

Before you go on, go do some reading, because obviously you don't know what your f**king talking about.

Come back, apologize to zebra, and then apologize to the world for 'trying' to race a yacht.

Back On topic.

Personally not a fan of the sound of the J engine, have heard a few nice ones though, its all swings and roundabouts.

There are one or two very nice handling Supras, but , well that's my point there are one or two LOL.

And Birds if your going to the expense and trouble of building a hybrid, you wouldn't leave a worse performing head on it.