Whiteline Nm35 Stagea Sway Bar Group Buy

[Daleo]

Got these fitted today, look great, thanks Dale!

Rear bar was an issue, not a lot of clearance around my exhaust, but it *just* fit!

Front one was a bit of a bitch with the links and mounting points, but not too bad. No issues with rubbing/grinding.

Are there adjustable links available for the front?

So far I don't feel much of a difference, but going for a hills run tomorrow to see how it is on a windy road. I have a feeling my stuffed stock shocks won't be helping the situation, so have to bump coilovers up the list...

I didn't end up getting the adjustable rear toe arms installed. Dad and I did the install in his workshop and he recommended I get them to fit it when I next get a wheel alignment. I think I'll do that in the next week or two, as we did notice some feathering on the rear tyres that we didn't notice at the service around 1000-2000 km ago.

That's great mate! It is a little tricky to thread in around the exhaust, but it's possible. Dropping a couple of the hangers helps with getting a bit more space.

I have some very short Whiteline H/D Ball Links that I've been working with, on and off for a while now; It's proving quite difficult, as due to the angle up over the top of the lower control arm, it's difficult to get the same kind of articulation available with the OEM links.

The OEM ones don't suffer for strength, so I'm not looking to pursue it much further. The amount of machined parts I've had to manufacture so far (spacers, shouldered bushes and mount plates) to adapt the universal links would make them fairly pricey, for something that doesn't really work as well as the original.

[bigkevracer]

No problems Dale, thanks.

I did actually drop a couple of hangers while we were doing the fitting. Not sure if its such an issue on cars with different exhausts, but it did just fit, so no issues.

Took it for a hills run today and what a difference! Body roll is greatly reduced and turn in is much improved. Love it! Even the girlfriend noticed the difference!

Thanks for your efforts Dale, much appreciated.

[Daleo]

Awesome stuff , glad you like 'em!

[prince_skyline]

Well i finally had time to fit the Sway bars today......no problems encountered with the install at all. Took advice from here and dropped the exhaust from the back two hangers to allow more room for the rear bar to be removed and new one installed.

First impression was how solid and firm it made the steering feel from the wheel, even simple turns and lane changes....

Certainly notice that there is less body roll and it is noticeably more 'eager' to duck into turns. Cornering feels much more natural. I dont feel like I am fighting the car around the corner anymore but more guiding it through - feels like the car is now inviting me to take each corner faster!

Well worth the investment

Thanks again Dale

[Daleo]

Well i finally had time to fit the Sway bars today......no problems encountered with the install at all. Took advice from here and dropped the exhaust from the back two hangers to allow more room for the rear bar to be removed and new one installed.

First impression was how solid and firm it made the steering feel from the wheel, even simple turns and lane changes....

Certainly notice that there is less body roll and it is noticeably more 'eager' to duck into turns. Cornering feels much more natural. I dont feel like I am fighting the car around the corner anymore but more guiding it through - feels like the car is now inviting me to take each corner faster!

Well worth the investment

Thanks again Dale

Great to hear mate, glad you got them on with no issues .

I reckon they make the car feel so much smaller and nimble to drive.

Thanks for the positive feedback; both about the bars and for myself, really appreciated.

Off topic; You don't happen to know a guy called Shaun Chillcot? I work with him, he's a Prince nut; reckons he's seen a couple of your cars...

Cheers, Dale.

[prince_skyline]

Certainly do know Shaun. He recently sold one of his cars. He would know me also seeing he should be getting all my emails from The Prince Skyline GT Register. First met him at Bathurst in 2006 when i organised a National Meeting for the Prince Register. I had my light blue Prince there. Had a good long chat with Shaun at the bar on the first night. Beers were flowin' nicely...

Say g'day for me....

Edited July 21, 2011 by prince_skyline

[Daleo]

Certainly do know Shaun. He recently sold one of his cars. He would know me also seeing he should be getting all my emails from The Prince Skyline GT Register. First met him at Bathurst in 2006 when i organised a National Meeting for the Prince Register. I had my light blue Prince there. Had a good long chat with Shaun at the bar on the first night. Beers were flowin' nicely...

Say g'day for me....

Will do mate, yeah I don't think he really wanted to let it go, but I think he got what he was wanting; pricewise.

Shaun likes a drink & a chat? Lol, I had no idea...

[GT Sal]

when's the next gb on the parts?

[iamhe77]

Why wait for a GB, just PM Dale when you are ready to buy

[Daleo]

Hi guys,
I'm rather sad to inform you all; but Whiteline's BNF44Z and BNR38Z will now no longer be available.

Over the last 12 months demand for these has steadily declined, to the point that Whiteline are not planning another production run unless they receive an order for 25-30 complete sets.
I cannot possibly afford to make an order that large; and current demand suggests that it would take me years to sell them if I did.

I'm not that surprised, as our vehicle is a very small market, and we are essentially the only place in the world that has a decent number outside Japan.
Most other Whiteline products have large markets; often in multiple countries, so it is understandable that it is not cost effective to keep large numbers of low demand parts in stock costing large amounts of store.
I'd prefer people didn't criticize Whiteline for dropping these parts from their line-up; if we had reasonable demand they would still be producing.
If you are ready to grizzle; ask yourself if you supported them & bought a set.

Note that this doesn't affect the availability of any other parts; on the BNF44Z and BNR38Z. Whiteline continue to supply all other parts and replacement bushes.

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Whiteline for supporting us with both excellent quality parts and back up, and for continuing to bring innovative, high quality handling & alignment parts to the market.

When I found out what was happening; I had my supplier grab any complete sets that were available. I managed to get what I believe are the last 2 pairs available. I have one pair left.

Cheers, Dale.

[Brick]

So glad I scored one of those last sets one more week and I'll have a handling machine. Thanks dale

[Daleo]

All good mate; they are certainly going to become a high value item as time goes by.

[Brick]

Haha true that, between that and my nismo ecu I'm gunna be rich except no one is getting them, EVER!

[Daleo]

There is another avenue available; but it is much more expensive, and time consuming.

It does however require a significant commitment from buyers.

[scotty nm35]

Which is?

[Daleo]

Which is?

The guy I did my original Group Buy through.

Or they can bring overnight parts from Japan.

[Commsman]

That's bad news for new owners.

Is the rumour I heard about the front chassis braces being discontinued also true?

[Daleo]

It is, but there are plenty of "wait & see" buyers that will be ready to complain now they can't get them.

Pretty much, the market is pretty well supplied now; I'd need a decent order to justify past what material I have left.

Never say never though.

[joshm35]

so this will make them rare like hens teeth and i can sell mine for 3 times what it worth.. win win lol (Which is not going to happen)

[Commsman]

It is, but there are plenty of "wait & see" buyers that will be ready to complain now they can't get them.

Pretty much, the market is pretty well supplied now; I'd need a decent order to justify past what material I have left.

Never say never though.

If this last bit ^ is referring the front chassis brace, I was joking seeeing as you make them, not (some sweat shop working for) Whiteline, lol.

I hope mine is made before you run out of material or I'll be sad