EeLeYe Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I've started looking into graphics cards and have been wondering whether to go a high end older card or a mid-range newer card. One factor is the directx support. I had no idea what the difference was until I stumbled across this thread (yes, it's from 2009) that explains and shows the differences very well. http://www.overclock...-vs-dx-9-a.html I tried using the ol' search button but didn't find anything explaining the differences. Here are some pics of the same scene, but under the different versions. You'll notice that the differences between DX9 and 10 are minimal with only better shading and light DX11 is like a whole different league; more 3Dness so to speak - the biggest change is the detail in the road. I know it's an old subject and I'm a couple of years behind but I figured it's good to know the differences. DX11 is definitely the way to go. Windows XP - DX9 ONLY Windows Vista - DX10 (can be updated to DX11) Windows 7 - DX11 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madaz Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 i would go Dx11 no point going backwards and something like ati 6870 1gb is pretty cheap nowadays http://msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=6837 $229 i can only find 1 Nvidia in a similar price range http://msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=7305 $277 GTX560 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/#findComment-5718072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 get the 6850, its cheaper and you can flash it to the 6870 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/#findComment-5721924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madaz Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 ^^ do that x2 :D Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/#findComment-5721934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EeLeYe Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 Serious?? So the 6850 has all the same components as the 6870 and the only difference is the just firmware?? That is AWESOME. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/#findComment-5722165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madaz Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 no they would differ ever so slightly but not enough that a different firmware would kill it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/#findComment-5722173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bozodos Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 the 6870 is probably a higher binned 6850. So whilst it may work on most cards, there is potentially a portion that won't work after flashing it. I could be wrong though, cbf researching. BTW that directx 11 shot seems to be showing off tesselation more than anything Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/#findComment-5723525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EeLeYe Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 the 6870 is probably a higher binned 6850. So whilst it may work on most cards, there is potentially a portion that won't work after flashing it. I could be wrong though, cbf researching. BTW that directx 11 shot seems to be showing off tesselation more than anything Well apparently that's what dx11 is all about. It's basically dx10 but with completely revamped tesselation properties. I think instead of having multiple levels/layers of models, they have only two. Dx10 and earlier would have the lowest detailed model up close covered by the next level, covered again by another level and so on; therefore all levels are loaded for up close models even though we only see the last level/layer. Dx11 on the other hand will only load the highest detailed model close up until a certain distance and then change to the low detailed model. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/#findComment-5723618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 6850 is same as a 6870, with minor diffs, but you reflash bios and it works 100%, out of the 30-40ish ppl i know on the overclocking forums, all their cards work fine DO IT!!! i for one, just bought the gtx570 which just kicks pure assssss!!! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/#findComment-5723717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madaz Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 the main difference would be pipeline's and stream processing units and a different transistor count but yeah FLASH it Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/#findComment-5723730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchBurndout-:( Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I've started looking into graphics cards and have been wondering whether to go a high end older card or a mid-range newer card. One factor is the directx support. I had no idea what the difference was until I stumbled across this thread (yes, it's from 2009) that explains and shows the differences very well. http://www.overclock...-vs-dx-9-a.html I tried using the ol' search button but didn't find anything explaining the differences. Here are some pics of the same scene, but under the different versions. You'll notice that the differences between DX9 and 10 are minimal with only better shading and light DX11 is like a whole different league; more 3Dness so to speak - the biggest change is the detail in the road. I know it's an old subject and I'm a couple of years behind but I figured it's good to know the differences. DX11 is definitely the way to go. Windows XP - DX9 ONLY Windows Vista - DX10 (can be updated to DX11) Windows 7 - DX11 in dx11 that road is retarded, theres no way anyone could walk on that without twisting an ankle Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/#findComment-5724470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EeLeYe Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 [quote name=ClutchBurndout-' timestamp='1300745012' post='5724470] in dx11 that road is retarded, theres no way anyone could walk on that without twisting an ankle Haha. Fk driving on it too. Stiff suspension + road like that = fkd spine; and forget it if your busting for a piss. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/#findComment-5724665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
syfon Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Hey guys, I just installed a genuine copy of Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium. I am not sure if my operating system is now running Direct X 11. How can I tell or where do I search in Windows 7 to find if it is? My PC specs are as follows (if its of any importance) - Intel Quad Core 3.2ghz 4.0gb 1333mhz ram (yes I know that's sh!t, i'm upgrading to 12gb 2000mhz soon!) Gigabyte 1gb graphics card (can't remember the exact model name, paid about $300 for it just over 12months ago) Asus mother-board (once again can't remember specs etc) My PC runs games such a COD: Black Cocks & Battlefield: Bad Company 2 one maximum graphics and runs both of them smooooooooth as silk, both in singleplayer & multiplayer. WoW runs perfectly smooth, you get the idea. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/#findComment-5727079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrm Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 Run 'dxdiag'? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/#findComment-5727101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madaz Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 your OS is running DX11 but doesn't mean your gfx card is yeah really need to find the model of your gfx card, use GPUz to find out what gfx card you have http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/ Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/#findComment-5727103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
syfon Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 I'm pretty sure my graphics card is an ATI Radeon HD 4850. It seems to perform very well, and when i had XP and the Catalyst Control Centre installed, i overclocked it and it still ran fine and didnt overheat etc Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/#findComment-5727136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madaz Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 4850 are only DX10 5*** series went to DX11 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/#findComment-5727148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
syfon Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 ahh ok. i can upgrade to a newer series gigabyte graphics card fairly cheap though! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/#findComment-5727260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madaz Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 yeah that's right the 6*** are cheap as chips atm Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/#findComment-5727265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
syfon Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Just ran "dxdiag", and my system is runnign Direct X 11. My gfx card is a Gigabyte HD 4870. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/357762-directx-11-vs-dx10-vs-dx9/#findComment-5728745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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