Deca Wrap Up Thread - Round 1 2011

[Bec]

Awesome stuff Clive!!

[MacGillaZ]

New rule: No volunteers - no passenger rides!

Yeah, that makes sense, get the people that drivers invited to come up and share in the experience of the day with them to stand around by themselves or with strangers to assist run a Club Day when there's how many SAU-Vic members & or drivers standing around during the day?? /sarcasm

Having just run another clubs 1st DECA Day; which was closely modelled on a SAU Day, Driver-Helpers are only suited to 4 key positions; Starter & Finish Box Controllers @ Long Wang & the Skid Pan in the morning sessions. There is just too much turn over time if you try using them in any other position. Additionally, without proper instruction noobie volunteers can slow things down enough in other positions that you might have to cut events. In the arvo sessions, a 'rotating roster' could/should be employed to make sure ALL drivers particpate in the running the day, drivers who don't assist during the day, could then have time penalties handed to them as a sign of 'un-sportsman like' behaviour.

I know what it takes to run a good DECA day and while the SAU Motorsport Team have pretty much all the days processes/tasks nailed down to a tee, there needs to be a step up in involvement/execution by other non-competing SAU members as well as other event participants to fill the few gaps that remain, rather than first drawing upon guests/possible future participants.

[NUTWGN]

I'm up to volunteer for the next one, give me time to re-engineer the Lancer. Maybe see if I can fit a twin turbo 4l v6 under the bonnet with double bogey FWD.

Thanks Clive, That would be fantastic

[N1GTR]

I can't believe the lack of helpers on Deca days.

I've driven down to help out and not enter FFS, anyone standing around just has no excuse.

So glad our khana days don't have this problem

[llama_au]

I can't believe the lack of helpers on Deca days.

I've driven down to help out and not enter FFS, anyone standing around just has no excuse.

So glad our khana days don't have this problem

I also drive down to help as I have no plans to compete again. It would be nice if other people did put their hands up instead of leaving the event organisers scratching for helpers before it starts.

[femno]

Wow its hot in here!

Helping out on the day is actually quite fun...you get to play an integral role in a day that everybody loves so much!

I dont think you can force anyone to volunteer really...but everybody (that hasnt helped much) needs to clean their act up and get their asses helping!

I think everyone, especially regular entrants into DECA should ask themselves, how many DECA events have I done and how many have I helped run?

My answer was I think 8, and 1.

I bet alot of people's answer to the second part would be 0.

[KezR33]

Yeah, that makes sense, get the people that drivers invited to come up and share in the experience of the day with them to stand around by themselves or with strangers to assist run a Club Day when there's how many SAU-Vic members & or drivers standing around during the day?? /sarcasm

The day would be much simpler if guests helped out. A rotating roster with drivers would just be confusing and slow things down overall imo. I mean you'd have to cut into our time by teaching people how to do each position, they'd make mistakes, there may be safety issues with where people leave cars, not being fully aware of where they're meant to stand etc.

Besides I know a few people who flat out refuse to volunteer. They know its more fun to be a passenger and despite my harassment they won't do it. If they said "no volunteers, no passengers" it would force those people to help out or stay out of the cars either way. Its better than the alternative: cancel the event.

Plus, like Femno said its FUN being a volunteer, I'd much rather help out than stand around and get a couple of passenger runs on the wangs (boring). Not only that, but if you help out you can approach almost any car in the afternoon and they're almost obligated to give you a spin during the battles.

[R31Nismoid]

I remember that time in the absolute pissing rain - there was me, alone... on the skidpan calling the start for cars

lol that was one EPIC storm...

[Do-Luck]

I think I've only ever competed once, but volunteered on another occasion. I can't make it as much as I'd like due to other committments, but like Matt said, it's quite fun. And if you are a keen photographer, you can get some of the best positions for photos particularly on the long wang.

[limpus]

The day would be much simpler if guests helped out. A rotating roster with drivers would just be confusing and slow things down overall imo. I mean you'd have to cut into our time by teaching people how to do each position, they'd make mistakes, there may be safety issues with where people leave cars, not being fully aware of where they're meant to stand etc.

I would expect drivers to be more in tune to how or what they should do as opposed to some random that was dragged along to a "beginner drift day" as i heard someone say recently...

Having just helped to organize a deca day recently I know how messy it can be when you do not have enough helpers or when they have no idea what to do...its a pity that we're struggling to find helpers nowadays....

[KezR33]

Regular drivers sure, but I think its unlikely that we can shove first timers into this sort of thing. The confusion alone would cause a lot of delays.

[MacGillaZ]

Regular drivers sure, but I think its unlikely that we can shove first timers into this sort of thing. The confusion alone would cause a lot of delays.

Yet you continue to suggest spectators who will have even less clue on what's going ...

You sure you're not a Politician KezR33, you're making about as much sense as one atm

[femno]

WTF...there are spectators that have participated in DECAs before that just dont help; thats his whole point...as well as getting people up to DECA who arent driving to help out. Some people come just to watch but dont help.

At least he is making constructive comments...who are you tell him hes wrong?

Maybe read through a couple more times it might make it easier for your simple brain to understand.

[Russman]

Yet you continue to suggest spectators who will have even less clue on what's going ...

It's not that hard to click a stop watch or put cones back in they're place mate. There are experienced people on the other end of the radio whenever help is needed and from my experience help is less than a minute away at any time.

Doing timing and cone removal is also a great way to meet the drivers and have quick chats and tee up passenger rides for later in the day.

Everyone can help out. They will be put in a place that suits there experience at these events.

[R31Nismoid]

Even i can do the cones without getting it wrong

[Russman]

Yarrr. You're good at doin da conez!!!

[KezR33]

Yet you continue to suggest spectators who will have even less clue on what's going ...

You sure you're not a Politician KezR33, you're making about as much sense as one atm

You're missing the point, again. Volunteers don't have to worry about anything but their job, they'll have someone walk them over to where they stand, tell them what they do and leave it at that. Simple.

First time drivers are confused enough about participating let alone assisting as well. I can foresee a lot of drivers dumping their cars in inappropriate places to do their starting, timing etc, or standing in the wrong place and causing all sort of safety hazards. Then you'll have drivers going to the wrong position, relieving the wrong person and causing all sorts of hold ups and confusion.

[limpus]

Ok...lets stop with the volunteer talk now...every deca aftermath thread seems to go off on a tangent for some reason...i remember a whole load of BS about heel/toes once and then something about double clutching or something like that...enough...

More sh!t talk about awd vs rwd or boats vs planes or godzilla vs mothra please...

[femno]

Ok so lets talk about how AWD are better than RWD and lets not be able to prove it because theres no DECAs to do it at.

This is a forum...where discussion takes place. If you dont like it GTFO

[limpus]

A little bit testy aren't we matt? take it easy...no need to get so defensive...nobody's attacking you...if you wanna continue with that discussion...go right ahead...i was just trying to lighten the mood...