Build Thread: Adam's Nissan Stagea C34

[Run-It-Hard]

What might I be doing here?

I borrowed Fix Me Garage's guard roller to get my shit sorted before the coilovers arrived ... I hate these rollers! take forever to setup :lol:

Only managed to get the fronts done today until my back said no more ... I'll sort the rears out tomorrow.

Oh, I got a phone call today from Ryda, they were letting me know that the JVC headunit I ordered wasn't in stock ... thanks for letting me know 4 days after the order was placed. So I'm going for some poineer gear instead.

I recieved a hard intake pipe on Wensday designed for a Skyrine ... I'll need to do a few little things before I can fit it though.

[ironpaw]

is fixmegarage the guys from Cabra?

I saw on hardtuned they were rolling guards anymore...hmmm

[Run-It-Hard]

yeah he is, I did the guards myself ... I used to do a guard rolling service.

Fitted a hardpipe tonight, not sure if want.

[Run-It-Hard]

So, this weekend was packed. I went to Ryda to sort out my headunit/speaker issues. I opted for a new model Poineer headunit with iPhone connectivity and some 3 way splits ... all for under $350.

Then we had a gathering at my joint until Twilight drift. I'm starting to get used to the car now, and I can see what needs improvements ... the shitty 195's have got to go!

Check out this vid that Tiksie made, great job man

http://vimeo.com/21546249

So, this week should be pretty big. My coilovers should be here which means the Stagea will be riding nice on low on some fresh wheels. Hopefully I can get the seat rails and other little bits sorted too!

On another note, it looks like the MX-5 is going to a new home very soon.

Edited March 27, 2011 by RoadsterGarage

[ironpaw]

what coilovers did u get?

[Run-It-Hard]

BC BR with 10/8 spring rates.

[ironpaw]

10/8? is that soft?

[Big Fella]

10/8 seems reasonably hard to me, but i could be wrong??

[ironpaw]

ahh ok so the smaller the number the softer?

[pipster11]

pretty sure its kg/mm (weight/displacement)

[SMOKEYV35]

i know that my greddy's are 8 and 6.....so i think they should be fine.

it all depends on the type of suspension and the weight of the car.

my ls400 with double wishbones had 24kg fronts and 12kg rears.

[Run-It-Hard]

I had 10/8 in the MX-5 ... considering the stag is almost double the weight, I reckon it'll be nice and firm, but not rattle your teeth out shit.

[stagasaurus]

Also with springs people, the "stiffness" also comes down to spring construction, if you drive on some good quality springs, with the same struts (IE if you used the BC springs and then used swift springs) you would find the swift springs would feel softer and forgiving, yet have the same weight/displacement, and better performance. (another difference between your cheap BC/HSD/JIC and quality suspension)

When will you be taking it off the "kid-pan" and getting some real drifting in?

[Daleo]

Also with springs people, the "stiffness" also comes down to spring construction, if you drive on some good quality springs, with the same struts (IE if you used the BC springs and then used swift springs) you would find the swift springs would feel softer and forgiving, yet have the same weight/displacement, and better performance. (another difference between your cheap BC/HSD/JIC and quality suspension)

When will you be taking it off the "kid-pan" and getting some real drifting in?

Whilst not arguing your point about spring quality, the spring weight "number" that people are quoting; is just a measurement of how many kilograms of force is required to compress the spring a certain distance in cm or mm.

As for quality, there are definitely different grades of spring steel, and also country of origin has a part to play (Chinese; generally garbage in consistency & uniformity) and whether progressively wound (tightly wound at one end and looser at the other) or linear, definitely changes the "feel" and behaviour of a spring.

Also regarding the percieved "quality" of BC's etc; I've been using BC's for over a year now, the damper rates and spring rates are well matched, the construction, finish of machining and coatings is excellent, and there are numerous threads on other forums of specialists who've pulled them down to inspect their internals and they've come away impressed.

While I'm not suggesting that they're comparable to the icons like Ohlins, Drummond and others, they are also vastly different in price. There's little justification for using such an expensive product in a "Street" car, and although people do (which I have no problem with) I think it's a mistake to look down on so called "budget" set ups, just because they don't have a premium name.

For the money you pay for BC's; you'd struggle to buy better without another thousand dollars, IMO.

Oh, and Lol @ "Kid-pan"; that's where I'd be...

Edited March 29, 2011 by Daleo

[scotty nm35]

+1

I agree Daleo, my setup feels much better than the Bilstein/Tein etc. I have tried. More supple, yet firmer. It was quite interesting to see such quality coming out of Taiwan and they seem to be lasting quite well.

I try to never bag anything I haven't tested personally.

[stagasaurus]

Your quiet right Daleo,

I have tried a hundred set up's and you will always get what you paid for, I liked Tien Mono flex as far as bang for buck went, (not what other people would call cheap, but they are much better than BC's, and only ~$1100 (i realise that is double the price..) but I found my Bilstein coil overs to be very nice, and the dampers are much closer matched than many other's, (They may not have damper adjustability, but cheaper coil overs are far front equal across all four)

But in the end, it's a street car, so spending big money on suspension that will never get the beating they deserve is like buying a 911 and never driving it.

[Run-It-Hard]

Also with springs people, the "stiffness" also comes down to spring construction, if you drive on some good quality springs, with the same struts (IE if you used the BC springs and then used swift springs) you would find the swift springs would feel softer and forgiving, yet have the same weight/displacement, and better performance. (another difference between your cheap BC/HSD/JIC and quality suspension)

When will you be taking it off the "kid-pan" and getting some real drifting in?

I'm aware of that, I didn't feel the need to go into so much detail so cool.

FYI I've had alot of setups, and I've found BC to be at the top in terms of bang for buck, unless your going all out with Teins for example (i.e flex/mono flex) I'd be getting some BC's. f**k, even my shitty G4's overshadowed my Tein superstreets ...

what, so I can do something like this?

The car is stock man, I'm not expecting miracles from it, I'll get there though. It's all fun at the end of the day .

Edited March 29, 2011 by RoadsterGarage

[stagasaurus]

If we pulling dicks with drifting photos, any Oran park shots or videos? Hehe..

Edited March 30, 2011 by stagasaurus

[Big Fella]

whats with all the anger and crap in the stagea section in the last few days??

Good drifting pics man, can't imagine how hard it would be to handle the stag when sliding, i've had mine 4 wheel sliding a couple of times and it doesn't feel awesome.

oh and while we're "pulling dicks" with drift pics, heres mine

:nyaanyaa: :nyaanyaa:

Edited March 30, 2011 by Big Fella

[Run-It-Hard]

If we pulling dicks with drifting photos, any Oran park shots or videos? Hehe..

Nope, I started getting into it a few years ago, which is a shame I would of loved to hit up Oran park

I do have shitloads of vids on youtube though.

You can pull my dick all you want, I couldn't give a f**k what you think