Another Epa -Princes Hwy - Chaddy

[alr33x]

i gotta stock exhaust if you wanna borrow it

[adis]

Problem is the Varex is SO restrictive when closed, it's worse than the stock exhaust.

So you end up driving around with it open because it makes the car "that bad" to drive.

Point taken. I still like the idea of leaving to work at 5am quietly. Also, going past cops quietly, Able to have a conversation with misses while going out for a coffee and so on. So yes, they are illegal, i did mention it, but to me its worth it. Dont forget i drive a 4 cylinder so my exhaust is louder. but each to their own on that one. Its an option.

[Birds]

It's not that bad to drive when closed...just stay off boost (though a few psi doesn't kill it), which I do throughout most daily driving anyway. Agree with Adis...early morning / late night startups alone are worth it - I'm 100db when open.

[KamikazeNinja34]

And according to those that have had one the cared mufflers sound awful. Mine is a lot quieter than most...and why... Because it's a kakimoto, which all have sound restrictors in the muffler lol my 2c... If ur not pulling big power, like I'm not... A kakimoto is the way forward.

[llama_au]

Problem is the Varex is SO restrictive when closed, it's worse than the stock exhaust.

So you end up driving around with it open because it makes the car "that bad" to drive.

And it makes it sound like arse.

Edited April 3, 2011 by llama_au

[krzysiu]

I got quoted $1200-1300 for mine. Full custom legal 3" exhaust. Only marginally more expensive than an off the shelf item really.

Visit racepace and you will get an awesome flowing exhaust and quiet. That's how much they want :s

[Birds]

People compliment the sound from my twin tip Varex all the time...Hamish will tell you it's not that bad. And it can't sound worse than the rest of your system is responsible for, given the twin tip is basically a straight pipe when open...

Enough Varex hate!

[Sunkist]

Problem is the Varex is SO restrictive when closed, it's worse than the stock exhaust.

So you end up driving around with it open because it makes the car "that bad" to drive.

as in enough to cause problems or??

was thinking of doing it..not a muffler, just the flange valve, like the apexi ones.

[krzysiu]

Won't cause problems when closed but if you fang it with it closed your pretty much strangling the car and it will go like shit

[R31Nismoid]

If you run around with an exhaust that is closed like that - it's more restrictive than the factory exhaust in essence.

If you are running then a modified setup, more power and so on... You are creating ridiculous backpressure and that can actually damage the motor and is not healthy at all.

I mean it's "that" restrictive you struggle to even put the foot down and generate boost but if you try - it's not a good thing. I'd prefer not having to remember to flick a button before putting the pedal down.

And plus - by the time you've seen the Police officer to close it, it's already too late in most instances as they'll hear you coming long before you'll see them.

[Sunkist]

If you run around with an exhaust that is closed like that - it's more restrictive than the factory exhaust in essence.

If you are running then a modified setup, more power and so on... You are creating ridiculous backpressure and that can actually damage the motor and is not healthy at all.

I mean it's "that" restrictive you struggle to even put the foot down and generate boost but if you try - it's not a good thing. I'd prefer not having to remember to flick a button before putting the pedal down.

And plus - by the time you've seen the Police officer to close it, it's already too late in most instances as they'll hear you coming long before you'll see them.

ah ok.

agree with your last line..

[Birds]

It's not dichotomous like that. You can have it half open, a third, a quarter...find the balance between flow and volume if you like. Whatever you think Varex can't do for you, you're losing nothing by having it there. Illegal it may be, it no longer matters these days...you can get an EPA notice for a standard exhaust, without a cop even hearing it, as we've seen. But atleast I can have a sporty note and can maintain a level of respect for my neighbours during sleeping hours, or give my passengers (and myself) a pleasant road trip on the highway when the constant drone of a loud exhaust isn't appropriate. Keep an eye 200 metres behind and in front, and you'll have plenty of time for the 3 seconds it takes to shut the valve. Anyway, I'll stop selling it to you...in a way, the less of you that have one, the less aware of them the police are = the better it is for people like me!!!

[Sunkist]

my exhaust is pretty quiet.. even on full throttle.. but i just wanted something that would be dead quiet..

only reason is I like to start my car about 10 minutes before i jump in it in the morning..

when the car cold starts its really loud ,... it has that drone.

i leave for work by 5:30am.. neighbours havnt said anything but(I have nice neighbours) thats the only reason i want it..

[R31Nismoid]

There is no point to doing that. 30 sec, start and off you go once oil pressure and so on has settled.

Best way to warm the car up, I rarely let mine idle for longer than 2-3 mins.

Or if you really must - go drive down the street and let it sit there out the front of someone elses

[Charles89]

I thought your better off granny-ing the car for a couple of k's in the morning than letting the car idle to warm it up?

Coz when you let it idle, the only thing will be warmed up is your engine, but everything else is still cold?

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

stock engine's are actually designed to be warmed up for 30 sec max and then driven.

excess idleing is not good for the engine and does not warm up your gearbox or diff oil anyway

[Birds]

Yup, do the 30 seconds of idling and away you go...some argue it does more bad than good sitting there, because it won't warm up as fast just idling away.

[PENGUYEN]

Whenever i drive in the morning (learners).

Turn on car. Put up plates. (prob 1 min or so)

Drive off keeping rpm low/babying it until i get onto the main roads. Its usually fully warm by the time i reach the main road. (2 mins)

[Sunkist]

oh really? didnt know that, i thought i was just under the impression that your meant to let it warm up for 10 min.. i mean all the adds say it.

[W0rp3D]

oh really? didnt know that, i thought i was just under the impression that your meant to let it warm up for 10 min.. i mean all the adds say it.

If you have a carbie car you should, for atmo injected definately not, for turbo as above, no boosting before she warms up, ask most mechanics and they will tell you that the 10min rule is a waste of fuel, and with fuel quickly heading towards $2p/ltr thats a lot of wasted money!