Backyard Spray Job

[KezR33]

Hey guys,

For those who don't know me I've got an NA Supra which is in top mechanical condition, but terrible paint condition. It's a custom 4-layer pearl yellow (which was done in Japan I believe) and looks amazing, except for the multitude of scratches, dings and the GOLD coloured bodykit. For the record I bought it this way.

Now for a long time I've been considering respraying it myself. Its only an NA Supra, and whilst its mechanically good, its not worth getting a professional respray. My question is, how difficult is a backyard job, and what colour is easiest?

I've been recommended against doing yellow as lead based paints are now illegal and yellow is one of the toughest colours to do well. I was thinking possibly matte black? IMO I don't think the colour suits Supras all that well, but its not terrible. The reason being matte requires far less prep work and its less likely to run etc due to the rough surface. Plus being black it won't matter so much if I get some paint on the window trim, etc.

Does anyone have a link to some good articles or even a video with advice and lessons on backyard resprays? I have all the equipment as I've resprayed parts of the stupid gold body kit, but never been brave enough to attempt the entire car.

Cheers.

[KezR33]

Just quickly, this is what I was thinking of doing but I may be getting it all wrong.

Sand the car down.

Tape it off.

Spray primer.

Sand primer, but still use a relatively high grit (I want the surface to be some what rough, not silky smooth).

Spray a glossy black (or should I use a flat black?).

Spray with glossy sealant.

The goal is to have the rough surface provide the dulling affect and the glossy paint give some reflective sheen. So its more of a satin than matte, hopefully.

I was going to practice it on my stock spoiler and see how it came out.

This would be the result ideally, but without the blacked out lights or deleted door handles.

[sky017]

just out of curiosity why would the surface need to be rough if it was going to be a satin finish? iv also heard of people just using a single base coat, no clear. or either add a flattener , and control it with the hardner

[KezR33]

To be honest I don't know much about painting. Except from fooling around when painting my kid I know if you don't sand the primer smooth you get a matte like effect. I also saw and felt a matte black sil80 on the weekend which had the rough surface, black paint and came out with a really nice matte appearance.

I figured if I sanded the primer to a semi-smooth surface and put a glossy paint on it it would give it some reflection and make it more satin like.

[sky017]

yeah but either way its just like a crap spray job . irregardless of surface , gloss is gloss . itll shine through theoretically ? maybe google it ..

all i can say is a good quality finish is all in the prep work , sanding , filling etc...i do a fair bit of spraying myself, learnt a lot as i go over time , always trying new techniques . practice on the spoiler or something , test it out . i doubt itll be satin . you may need to get a special kind of clear with low gloss if possible , or either you just spray a base coat

[KezR33]

tbh, if everyone thinks the rough surface idea is rubbish I'll probably just try for a clean gloss respray with lots of prep work. Unsure what colour I'd go though. What's an easy colour to apply?

[sky017]

no idea champ,

i sprayed my r34 front and rear bars with acrylic black (GV1) the stock colour , must say from my experience black is hard . see everything like dogs balls lol....but with acrylic you need to cut it back from like 1200 through to 2000 , then apply cutting compound and a few polishes etc

a lot of work , but its worth it . maybe try a lighter colour ? aston martin green would look epic on a supra

[aussietroy]

ive been told by a mate who has sprayed his vl twice that white is the easiest colour to spray as the imperfections dont show up as bad.

He also said that black is hardest as every little imperfection no matter how small looks 10 times worst.

but in saying that his no expert on paint, just from his experiences

[KezR33]

I like the green idea. Its nice, unique and subtle.

I guess I'll go to scrapper and find a nice flat panel, maybe a damage hood, and practice on that.

[Ten Four]

[sky017]

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green all the way Edited April 6, 2011 by sky017

[Buddah]

Do the prep work best you can. If wanting matt you could go 2k COB System alot of them have matt clear kits available.

I just did my 33 myself and home with a mate but I have exp.

[ARTZ]

^^^That looks awesome Buddha

Id stay away from green cause its not sexy and stick with yellow cause it is hot..

The easiest, cheapest way i reckon is you just rub it back a bit till you start seeing undercoat, fill scrathes and such with spray putty as you go, then spray yellow over the top again..this way you dont have to worry undercoating it again or about door jams, under bonnet etc

For best results you can hire a proper spray booth for a day as well, prepare it first then drive it to a spray booth ,mask it up and spray, then drive home and cut it and your done.Have seen a few people do this with some great results..One of which was a bright yellow panelvan and the guy had never painted before and it looked great

[Joe_89]

If you want the satin black, maybe just get as good a finish as you can and then have the whole thing wrapped in vinyl?

If you were in brisbane i could point you in the right direction of a guy to do it, but im sure you could get it done somewhere in Vic too

This car is actually painted white like the one next to it

[sky017]

unecessary to sand back to undercoat . as long as its been sanded well and bogged etc , itll hold . up to you weather you prime , some people just spray over existing paintwork. generally i like to prime to have a good look at any defects or panel damage to clarify its at its best

[ARTZ]

haha vinyl wrapping, there is a commodore i see in melbourne occasionaly that has been completely covered in carbon fibre wrap...looks hilarious..

[Joe_89]

haha vinyl wrapping, there is a commodore i see in melbourne occasionaly that has been completely covered in carbon fibre wrap...looks hilarious..

Hahahaha its funny because its not hard to imagine

I actually want to see that 34 entirely wrapped in carbon but

A) Its wrapped in black as a promotion to his business

B) I have no doubt the commodore was done by the owner

and C) Im guessing the vinyl was cheap rubbish unlike the 3M carbon stuff stephen has

[Kris..]

cant wait to see how shit this comes out

[75coupe]

cant wait to see how shit this comes out

wow you suck dont you!!!

we have a pretty good idea of how shit you've turned out...

[ARTZ]

wow you suck dont you!!!

we have a pretty good idea of how shit you've turned out...

lol, nice pwnage..

Kez I live down your way mate ,if you wanna give it a quik blowover in yellow id be happy to give you a helping hand, ill even paint it if you want .I wouldnt mind the practice. Wouldnt take to long or cost to much and should look shit hot