Will My Sard 700Cc Injectors Support 400Awkw?

[Marko R1]

hi guys,

currently making 390awkw @ 20psi with my gtr, rb26 with hks gtrs setup, pump fuel.

im planning to nudge 400awkw on pump...will i need to upgrade my injectors as im thinking about the injector dynamics id1000's which have been highly recommended.

i'd rather not change them unless i need to. if i decide to go to e85 1 day i know i'll need 1000cc, but i dont think i'll ever do this & will stick with pump fuel.

thanks

[wrxkilla]

390kw atw on pump at only 20psi is bloody nice !!

I'd think you will be towards the max of your injectors. I'm having my car retuned at the moment (godzilla motorsport) and will have less than 390kw atw and am putting in id1000's.

Michael

[Piggaz]

Marko,

The previous owner of my car had to go from 700's to 800's at about 370rwkw IIRC. Yes some people might be able to do it but bugger that. ID 1000's. My ID 2000's idled better then my Sard 800's. Do it.

[Piggaz]

With E85 you will need waayyy more then 1000's too. On my setup im using 62.2% on ID 2000's (which are actually 2225cc) making 400 kw at the treads.

[Ryan1200]

  On 15/04/2011 at 7:51 AM, Piggaz said:

Marko,

The previous owner of my car had to go from 700's to 800's at about 370rwkw IIRC. Yes some people might be able to do it but bugger that. ID 1000's. My ID 2000's idled better then my Sard 800's. Do it.

The 2000's idled better than the 800's on E85 or 98? And which ECU do you run? Cheers

[Marko R1]

is there anything in between id1000 & id2000?

[Piggaz]

  On 15/04/2011 at 8:40 AM, Marko R1 said:

is there anything in between id1000 & id2000?

Yes 1600's man.

[Marko R1]

Where is the best place to get these injectors? I saw them for 650 on ebay via a US supplier

[Marko R1]

I had bosch indy blues in my rb2630 (1600's)...how do they compare?

[WHITER33GTS-T]

I got my id2000s and rail for about $1400

[Piggaz]

  On 15/04/2011 at 8:11 AM, Ryan1200 said:

The 2000's idled better than the 800's on E85 or 98? And which ECU do you run? Cheers

On both man. When I put the ID's in we did one map on 98 (If i ever wanted to go back) and a map on E85. I just run a dinosaur Power FC.

  On 15/04/2011 at 9:47 AM, Marko R1 said:

I had bosch indy blues in my rb2630 (1600's)...how do they compare?

No idea man. But I suppose the ID's are new(er) technology so you dont get the issues running big injectors like you would normally. Your more than welcome to come and take it for a drive if you like.

[Marko R1]

what ecu u running now paul?

[Ryan1200]

  On 15/04/2011 at 11:51 AM, Piggaz said:

On both man. When I put the ID's in we did one map on 98 (If i ever wanted to go back) and a map on E85. I just run a dinosaur Power FC.

Im sporting the old dinosaur aswell i love it havent touched my tune in 3years!

Another option is the new ID1600 im looking to go down this path when i switch to ethanol very soon

http://www.injectordynamics.com/ID1600.html

Direct replacement no adaptors necessary

[Nee-san]

  On 15/04/2011 at 11:51 AM, Piggaz said:

On both man. When I put the ID's in we did one map on 98 (If i ever wanted to go back) and a map on E85. I just run a dinosaur Power FC.

No idea man. But I suppose the ID's are new(er) technology so you dont get the issues running big injectors like you would normally. Your more than welcome to come and take it for a drive if you like.

Are you able to run bigger then 1050cc injectors on a power FC ?

[Don Dada]

  On 15/04/2011 at 6:26 AM, Marko R1 said:

hi guys,

currently making 390awkw @ 20psi with my gtr, rb26 with hks gtrs setup, pump fuel.

im planning to nudge 400awkw on pump...

i'd rather not change them unless i need to. if i decide to go to e85 1 day i know i'll need 1000cc, but i dont think i'll ever do this & will stick with pump fuel.

thanks

What duty are you seeing now?

Maybe a fpr could get you the extra 10awkw??

[Marko R1]

  On 15/04/2011 at 12:18 PM, Ryan1200 said:

Im sporting the old dinosaur aswell i love it havent touched my tune in 3years!

Another option is the new ID1600 im looking to go down this path when i switch to ethanol very soon

http://www.injectordynamics.com/ID1600.html

Direct replacement no adaptors necessary

I'm pretty much sold on the 1600's as I won't need 200's if I go e85.

So the 1000's and 2000's need adapters right?

How about changing the connector plugs? Can I simply just pull the pins out of the old plugs or do I need to butcher and cut the wiring?

[Marko R1]

  On 15/04/2011 at 11:47 AM, WHITER33GTS-T said:

I got my id2000s and rail for about $1400

where did u get that killer deal?

cheapest i could find was $1350 for id2000's without fuel rail...pm me if u prefer

[Ryan1200]

  On 15/04/2011 at 11:03 PM, Marko R1 said:

I'm pretty much sold on the 1600's as I won't need 200's if I go e85.

So the 1000's and 2000's need adapters right?

How about changing the connector plugs? Can I simply just pull the pins out of the old plugs or do I need to butcher and cut the wiring?

Looking at the specs sheet the new 1600's should be a direct replacement for the old indy blue injectors including the wiring plug aswell.

  On 16/04/2011 at 11:44 AM, Marko R1 said:

where did u get that killer deal?

cheapest i could find was $1350 for id2000's without fuel rail...pm me if u prefer

Also word of advice buy genuine ID injectors! I unknowingly purchased some bosch 2000's had troubles tunning them decided to flow check and found as much as 10% flow difference at low duty cycle on one injector..

[HOT_R33]

I'm currently running the same SARD 700's you are while making 400awkw at 21psi. My duty cycle is sitting on 79% but that power had been made with quite a bit of mechanical tuning as well. Happy to give a full list of specs if you need. I'm running normal 98 RON so you shouldn't have to change unless you really want to go to E85 in the near future.

[Nee-san]

How are all you guys running over 1000CC injectors on your power FC's ?