Will My Sard 700Cc Injectors Support 400Awkw?

[Piggaz]

The id1000's are almost half the price of id1600's and id2000's, 1600's and 2000's are 250each ouch...and I thought jap injectors were hefty

In my old setup I had bosch 1600's (indy blues) and they were only 90bucks each

ID 1600's 2000's. Do it. You will never have to think/worry about it again. Sell the 700's and the changeover will not be that bad.

[Nee-san]

I found ID1000's for a bit over $ 100 US each, reasonable ?

[N1GTR]

Where from?

Sounds ok

[Marko R1]

I found ID1000's for a bit over $ 100 US each, reasonable ?

im interested in where u got those prices as well - there are some fakes floating as well so need to be careful when purchasing

[Nee-san]

Alright guys, Ill find the link and post it up... it was Ebay.

[sucram]

20 deg C difference in charge air temp is about 2% power difference. One of the reasons you tune on the richer side on a non compensated ecu

[Nee-san]

So the difference between 20 degrees C air and 0 Degrees C air would be 6hp on a standard rb26 ?

I think you might mean Fahrenheit, even then...

[sucram]

Deg C

The actual power difference from temp alone is somewhere around 2% give or take.

[DVS JEZ]

its not the power output that is the issue, its the higher temps being more prone to detonation.

[WHITER33GTS-T]

I found ID1000's for a bit over $ 100 US each, reasonable ?

Just be careful on where you get them. I was told mine were ID2000s but are really Bosch 2200cc. They are pretty much the same injector just not modified like the genuine IDs are

[Marko R1]

Just be careful on where you get them. I was told mine were ID2000s but are really Bosch 2200cc. They are pretty much the same injector just not modified like the genuine IDs are

so are the id's modified bosch items? what is the difference?

[scotty nm35]

Mine arent genuine ID's either, they are the local Xspurt modified ones but at $650 who cares. They are 1000cc Bosch EV14 injectors with a guaranteed spray consistency, local warranty and they idle perfectly. I will be giving them a workout soon.

http://www.xspurtinjectors.com/

[Piggaz]

Just be careful on where you get them. I was told mine were ID2000s but are really Bosch 2200cc. They are pretty much the same injector just not modified like the genuine IDs are

Basic Specifications Nominal Flow Rate - 2225cc/min @ 3.00 Bar (43.5 psi) Using Gasoline at 52 Degrees C (125 Degrees F)

Thats straight off the ID website!

And for anyone that has issues with these injectors not being able to idle or what not.... here you go!

[WHITER33GTS-T]

so are the id's modified bosch items? what is the difference?

The guy I bought them off says they are identical but Injector Dynamics just adds on the fancy anodised tip and charges extra for them.

[R31Nismoid]

Just did a bit of testing while i was on the way home from work

63% was the best I could get on a 8 degree night.

700cc will be enough

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[Marko R1]

Let me report back with my results after the tune as most of us are still sitting on the fence. My mate who owns autostyle had a gtr 'dardvl' which made 450awkw back in the day and I think that also had 700's

[Nee-san]

http://stores.ebay.com/Real-Street-Performance-Sales/Injectors-/_i.html?_fsub=2473988018&_sid=208807518&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

Heres the link to those injectors boys,

Sorry about the delay, worked all night ?

Are these bad boys the goods or what ?

[scotty nm35]

They are ID ones by the looks of the extender, Keep in mind they are only Bosch injectors flow matched and tested, I asked the guys at AZNEW today when I ordered my proflow fittings, they said theirs come in Bosch boxes and are unmodified.

[Ryan1200]

I had a bad experience with the bosch 2000's one injector flowed 7-8% more at idle and fouled the plug real bad.. Im guessing injector dynamics found the same problem and is probably why they push the flow matched sets that you pay a premium for..

[R32 Zilla]

From my experience you will need to run bigger injectors then 700's to make 400kw+. When I was making 374 RWKW I ran 700cc Sards with a duty cycle of up to about 96. At the advice of my tuner (a reputable one)I upgraded to Sard 800's to allow for more headroom. This allowed me to run a bit more boost and make 390 RWKW. Now the dc gets to about 85. This is with a -5 2.7 setup. I wonder why the difference between my experience and some others in this thread? Is it just a difference in dyno readings? I know of others with similar results to mine.

Tim.