I Was Going To Switch To E85...

[Rolls]

  On 22/04/2011 at 9:15 AM, JonnoHR31 said:

no idea, havent looked into properly yet but will be shortly, sick of 98 here and how ridiculously inconsistent it is

Surely it can't be that bad, aren't they required by law to make it at least 98 at all times?

[JonnoHR31]

yer but no one inspects every single batch on a regular basis. bp98 is considered the best here but even so i've had one batch that needed 7 degrees of timing taken out across the board under load to stop it pinging badly, unless every batch before that was 105+ theres no way that tank was 98. not a once off either, its happened a few times, just not always that bad.

[Marko R1]

  On 22/04/2011 at 7:31 AM, NXTIME said:

Marko, I hate to be picky, but I will... you also did the same thing in your opening post. . Must be an inherent anomaly with the Blackberry. I'd get it checked.

PS, withheld would be a better word

PSS, I am keen to try E85 when I finally get my car finished.

u must be a journalist haha, u ballbreaker u

[DR 32R]

The only logic in not running E85 Marko is the range. Engine safety from the point of view of detonation/knock is better on E70/85, and the minor variance in AFR is minor. You may well be more likely to detonate your engine on a bad batch of 98. Your tuner is being left behind....

[Birds]

Does the legal requirement for 98 dictate at the bowser though? It'd be near impossible to guarantee that after all the contamination between refinery and the pump. All it would take is that fuel sitting for long enough in the servo tanks to drop in octane.

[R31Nismoid]

Yeah at the bowser, companies cannot market it as 98 if it's not.

If they get found out there are ramifications. But realistically it's not that well policed... Can't go around checking up on the people that make the Gov't loads of money now can we?

[Deano45]

  On 22/04/2011 at 5:59 AM, Marko R1 said:

The joy of typing on blackberry with a mini screen, I left out "not to be"

Stevo - that's the other reason e85 is not for me as I also like to take long drives and will become stranded on e85

You can have 2 fuel maps with the Vipec, use one of the digital inputs with a switch to change between an e85 and pump fuel tune.

[Marko R1]

  On 23/04/2011 at 12:01 PM, Deano45 said:

You can have 2 fuel maps with the Vipec, use one of the digital inputs with a switch to change between an e85 and pump fuel tune.

i was unaware of that - i still have a lot to learn about the vipec capabilities (still thinking of my dinosaur pfc)

[Deano45]

  On 23/04/2011 at 12:47 PM, Marko R1 said:

i was unaware of that - i still have a lot to learn about the vipec capabilities (still thinking of my dinosaur pfc)

Is it the plugin v44 or v88?

[Birds]

PFC + laptop = unlimited switchable tunes too

[DVS JEZ]

Just run a wideband all the time. Then u can monitor whether the afr is richer/leaner every time u fill up and drive.

[Marko R1]

  On 23/04/2011 at 1:04 PM, Deano45 said:

Is it the plugin v44 or v88?

Its the v44

[NXTIME]

So, changed your mind yet, Marko?

[Marko R1]

  On 24/04/2011 at 9:54 AM, NXTIME said:

So, changed your mind yet, Marko?

Atm I'm smashed, drinking all day and had a 15kg pig on the spit so my mind is clear...I'll stick with 98 pump and my 700cc injectors and leave it with my tuner (crd). So how my pierburg fuel pump runs as they support 500awkw without a problem

[The Dan]

  On 22/04/2011 at 7:00 AM, scotty nm35 said:

I was getting prices of $500 just for the ethanol content sensor a while back, have the prices come down?

Or you could save yourself the hassle and buy the V500 Ecu instead. It's pretty much the same price as the vipec/haltech/Autronic etc but does so much more. That's the beauty of running multi-controllers.

Then you don't need the E85 sensor, you just need a wideband o2 which are approx $125-$150

[SS8_Gohan]

what if the wideband packs it in?

[DR 32R]

  On 26/04/2011 at 11:53 AM, Elite Racing said:

Or you could save yourself the hassle and buy the V500 Ecu instead. It's pretty much the same price as the vipec/haltech/Autronic etc but does so much more. That's the beauty of running multi-controllers.

Then you don't need the E85 sensor, you just need a wideband o2 which are approx $125-$150

Could you tell more about this ecu and how it works with the wideband please?

[The Dan]

This was already explained by Hyped6 about a page back. You use lambda as a reference input into the ecu and have it add fuel if it sees leaner mixtures above a certain rpm/boost level etc.

You can put tables over tables over tables to achieve virtually any result you can think of

[The Dan]

  On 26/04/2011 at 11:57 AM, SS8_Gohan said:

what if the wideband packs it in?

What if the E85 sensor packs it in?

What if a massive comet comes from outer space and crashes into earth?

As long as you change the sensor out every 100,000k or 50k if you are paranoid, then you will be fine. You could also argue about the e85 sensor and changing it out, but at $500 a pop?, hmm.

[ironpaw]

  On 23/04/2011 at 12:01 PM, Deano45 said:

You can have 2 fuel maps with the Vipec, use one of the digital inputs with a switch to change between an e85 and pump fuel tune.

What sort of switch can you use for this?

I'm running an Emanage Ultimate setup with E85 and LPG tunes. Right now I need to flick the dip switches each time I switch fuel.

I'd love to run a switch to the driver's side so I can switch tune on the fly. The Emanage has two "Options" input...