boiracer Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 sorry... I facepalmed myself so hard at your stupidity that I fell unconscious and forgot to post. almost good. carry on Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5798371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darmanin10 Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 OK, i dont understand the motives behind the hackers, and i dont really care why they did it..... ALL i know is that i havnt been able to get on PSN in the last 2.5 weeks because someone hacked the system and that Sony are currently carrying out maintence/Security Strengthening on the Network.. ^^^^^^^ this is pissing me off however i am more than capable of living without PS3 for 3 weeks. What i dont understand is why you all care so much and why some are blaming sony, i dont really get it...????c an some one fill me in without going into too much detail BUT if they are offering FREE DLC when the Network comes back online i think it will make up for the time while PSN was down. (obviuosly depending on what they will give us) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5798460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad082 Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 OK, i dont understand the motives behind the hackers, and i dont really care why they did it..... ALL i know is that i havnt been able to get on PSN in the last 2.5 weeks because someone hacked the system and that Sony are currently carrying out maintence/Security Strengthening on the Network.. ^^^^^^^ this is pissing me off however i am more than capable of living without PS3 for 3 weeks. What i dont understand is why you all care so much and why some are blaming sony, i dont really get it...????c an some one fill me in without going into too much detail BUT if they are offering FREE DLC when the Network comes back online i think it will make up for the time while PSN was down. (obviuosly depending on what they will give us) i don't blame sony, i blame the hackers. regardless of the motives, they are the ones responsible for pissing off all of us. i just hope some of them are now starting to get annoyed at the lack of PSN. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5798469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkymonkey Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 What i dont understand is why you all care so much and why some are blaming sony, i dont really get it...????c an some one fill me in without going into too much detail oh i dunno, when I hand over my personal and credit details to a company I tend to expect them to be both responsible for its safety and liable for its loss. BUT if they are offering FREE DLC when the Network comes back online i think it will make up for the time while PSN was down. (obviuosly depending on what they will give us) cos accepting it also means you waive the right to hold them liable for any losses or inconvenience. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5799764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiracer Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 but if hackers had a life. IE something/anything better to do...it wouldnt be an issue. its not like they just posted our details in bold print on bookface. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5800803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkymonkey Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 but if hackers had a life. IE something/anything better to do...it wouldnt be an issue. its not like they just posted our details in bold print on bookface. when you hand your money over to a bank you expect them to keep it safe from thieves. you'd be pissed if all they had to protect the door to the safe was a shitty padlock. same same. no they didn't post your details openly, but they sure as shit didn't make it hard to steal either. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5801261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamhe77 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Very true, but you seem to be ignoring the fact that the hackers ARE the thieves. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5801859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkymonkey Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Very true, but you seem to be ignoring the fact that the hackers ARE the thieves. there's always gonna be thieves, it's how society's worked for centuries. having a whinge about thieves after the fact isn't gonna make shit better. holding the company that let the thieves get away responsible is much more productive. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5802729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madaz Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 funny how its ok to steal when its software turn that around to ones car and then said thief is a flaming mongrel Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5802815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oweban Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 In this case, it's like having a car without an alarm/immobiliser and no insurance. Sony were running an old Apache server without firewalls, which was discussed months before on their technical forums. So that's like sitting in the middle of a mall, talking about how you have a car that the door locks are a bit iffy, and you don't have insurance/alarm, and expecting no-one to do anything about it. I don't exonerate the people who broke into Sony. Not at all. But Sony also needs to be held liable for leaving gaping security holes. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5803574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madaz Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 ^^ not really how about alarms and immobilisers were present on some cars back in 1994 yet Nissan in their wisdom (like sony) failed to put them on my car my car, gets stolen so do i blame Nissan and even that example is close but at least with my car i can put an aftermarket alarm on, my self i cant so anything if Sony's server software is outdated Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5804608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oweban Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Yeah, it's a tough one, I'll admit that. Analogies won't really work; a closer one would be something like, Ford gets told "there's a problem with your cruise control, it won't turn off", then does nothing about it (no recall, etc), then someone dies as a result of it. Still a bad analogy. Either way. All we can do is wait and see what happens. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5804697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad082 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 look at it this way: if there weren't low life hackers, how sony's server security was setup wouldn't be an issue. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5804991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madaz Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 correct and you can apply that to my analogy Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5804992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
liger Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 PSN may go back online 31st may http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-09/sony-s-playstation-qriocity-services-remain-shut-uncertain-on-restart.html Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5805137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EeLeYe Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 PSN may go back online 31st may http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-09/sony-s-playstation-qriocity-services-remain-shut-uncertain-on-restart.html So they say. Don't forget they had originally said it'll be back online within a week................. 3 weeks later and still no actual confirmation. Just a whole lot of maybe. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5805327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
liger Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 now you know why i said "may" go back online. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5805529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:: GimpS-R34 ::. Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 ^^ not really how about alarms and immobilisers were present on some cars back in 1994 yet Nissan in their wisdom (like sony) failed to put them on my car my car, gets stolen so do i blame Nissan and even that example is close but at least with my car i can put an aftermarket alarm on, my self i cant so anything if Sony's server software is outdated disagree with that analogy.. I'd say it's more like giving your car to a mechanic and it gets stolen from his shop while its there.. With an immobiliser you can atleast install your own, keep the car safe yourself.. But with Sony.. you had no choice.. You can't protect your own information as they had it.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5805533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EeLeYe Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 now you know why i said "may" go back online. Ah yes, touché. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5805690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
liger Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 indeed old chap Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/362113-whos-raging/page/6/#findComment-5806481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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