Police on a power trip! help me out guys

[franks]

BUT all said they should go spend there time on proper stuff like Drunk Drivers, Burglars and bloody rioters (in Redfern or where ever).

why is a dickhead in their car on a public street just as bad as a burglar or drunk driver?

i saw a pretty keen guy in a Jeep weaving in and out of peak hour morning traffic along the M4 this morning. dunno what was wrong with him but he even went onto the shoulder of the road to get by slow traffic. what a moron.

[gekisouzoku]

Sorry I probably didn't explain properly, what I meant is that Performance car drivers cause less trouble then Drunk drivers, rioters and burglars. SO the police should LAY OFF us performance drivers and go tackle the real CRIMS!

[Merli]

i believe the reason why *any* modified exhaust is illegal is because it alters the emmissions of the vehicle - and NOT ONLY the sound...

getting an engineers certificate qualifying it as meeting epa regulations will make the aforementioned null and void - this is my understanding of the rules as set out by the RTA.

now, who can install my screamer pipe?

There are noise regulations as well dude... I think it's 92dB limit?

Oh, and a screamer pipe basically dumps exhaust straight from the engine out into atmosphere, bypassing all emissions devices, so if that's doesn't "alter the emissions of a vehicle", nothing will

[0HR-30T]

I have some experiance in this stuff.A cop once said to me, 'anything you do to a standard production vehcile is a modification,and modified vehciles must be engineered'. The sad part is,if you go by the exact letter of the law,he was right.

There are some mods that can be "owner certified" though (small things) as long as the replacement items are similar in design and intent to the stock parts....but if you get pulled over,and the copper disagrees with you,who's going to win?

There's more detaild info on the RTA's website,so to be forewarned....

Personally,when I finish my car,I'm going to have every single thing I've done to it listed on an engineers report.As long as there's pricks out there,we have to make our cars prick-proof.

[Mr R32 M-Spec]

I saw a guy on the way home who went almost as much of the way as I did, 40ish, brand new SS ute with mags (non standard) and an exhaust.

never used an indicator once!@@&^#( now had that been me, there would have been a cop waiting somewhere to get me. never fails

I have had 2 cops that were both like the ones you described. I was just upfront and honest with them. but he said I was being a smart arse? I couldn't work it out.

so now I just smile and nod unless it justifies a verbal response.

[BiteMe]

Awhile back there was a person on the board that had certificates but the cop did not accept it and still fined him, this was a few years ago

[Blitz]

I saw a guy on the way home who went almost as much of the way as I did, 40ish, brand new SS ute with mags (non standard) and an exhaust.

never used an indicator once!@@&^#( now had that been me, there would have been a cop waiting somewhere to get me. never fails

I have had 2 cops that were both like the ones you described. I was just upfront and honest with them. but he said I was being a smart arse? I couldn't work it out.

so now I just smile and nod unless it justifies a verbal response.

Unfortunately skylines are now branded as a typical "street racer" vehicle - so the extra attention we receive is to be expected.

[HoeTrain]

It’s very simple, they are all just jealous!

[predator]

Be careful though, as sticking a tape recorder/mobile phone in their face can quickly turn a calm cop who was just going to give you a warning into an agressive and angry cop

Not if you are recording the conversation I wouldn't imagine! If the cop has any brains they'll suddenly turn as meek as a kitten. If not, well he isn't going to look too good if later found to be flying off the handle and getting emotional and its on all on tape.

[Merli]

Not if you are recording the conversation I wouldn't imagine! If the cop has any brains they'll suddenly turn as meek as a kitten. If not, well he isn't going to look too good if later found to be flying off the handle and getting emotional and its on all on tape.

Okay, well believe that if you want, but they can't get in trouble for being aggressive if they have reason to be. In any case, fine... So they're angry and fuming on the inside at your gall to dare to tape them... But are meek and compliant on the outside, whilst raping you over and defecting you for every little thing wrong with your car.

[HoeTrain]

I think to make matter worse, you have to remember that the person standing next to your window is at work, probably getting paid a crap salary, can’t wait to go home, looking forward to retirement from his/her job, has no idea what an engine should look like let alone knows how to start the mower on the weekend, relies on the uniform as a form of intimidation, probably couldn’t spell unintelligible or incomprehensible, and has a mortgage to pay while supporting 2.3 kids and saving for a new washing machine.

[Mr R32 M-Spec]

yes, I can understand that.

But when he would come to work and take it out on a poor individual he just pulled over is very unprofessional.

I have been guilty of it too. I work in support, and sometimes you have a bad day, but you have to grab hold of yourself and say stay calm, its cool. you just can't help it sometimes, but it looks twice as bad for the police to do it, because they are in a position of power and very public view

mark

[doxximus]

Okay, well believe that if you want, but they can't get in trouble for being aggressive if they have reason to be. In any case, fine... So they're angry and fuming on the inside at your gall to dare to tape them... But are meek and compliant on the outside, whilst raping you over and defecting you for every little thing wrong with your car.

and it would all be on tape as well just to sting that little bit more when you go back over it to see if they were out of line

[ferni]

Best thing to do with cops - esspecially if your in the wrong is just shut up and say nothing... all you have to do is give them your name/address if they ask for it and your license etc... anything else, details of the car/what your doing/who owns the car etc... you dont have to tell them

most of the time the more you tell them the bigger hole you dig..

if the cop seems ok, you can be normal, but as soon as you detect he is going to be a dick etc, just shut up and say nothing...

[meshmesh]

I think SAU Member "benm" mum's a copper or works as a cop?? He might be able to answer a few things for you.

[predator]

I have been guilty of it too. I work in support, and sometimes you have a bad day, but you have to grab hold of yourself and say stay calm, its cool. you just can't help it sometimes, but it looks twice as bad for the police to do it, because they are in a position of power and very public view

mark

Exactly, there are guidelines and things which the police have to follow. Even if the person they've pulled is acting like a total fool, the officer can't just fly off the handle without due reason. If you're acting like a dick fine, you're gonna get whats coming to you. If the officer has just had a bad day and wants to rip the person's throat out, then thats a different matter.

If they you are in the wrong, sure, recording things won't help. But if they are acting in an unreasonable manner too many times if a recording of the situation was done it would have helped later. I've know people who have been physically abused by police for even just a verbal comeback - now if you think that is how a cop should be acting then fine.

[meshmesh]

If & where possible, If I have a pig attempt to pull me over I keep on driving till I find a nice bright place with lots a people, or if possible a service station where they have camera's. Helps keep em a little more honest.

[Merli]

and it would all be on tape as well just to sting that little bit more when you go back over it to see if they were out of line

Okay dude... But let my words echo in your head when you stick a tape recorder in a cop's face and he calmly and politely asks you to pop your bonnet and gets out his defect notice pad on what WAS a routine stop.

Believe what you will. I subscribe to the school of thought:

"Don't do anything to make them more upset... Just sit there and shut up and answer only when necessary. Be polite and you'll be on your way soon enough."

edit: Let me finish by asking you (doxx and predator) a question: Imagine you were a police officer, who was pissed off from dealing with idiots all day and copping abuse all day and just wants to get home... You pull over a young kid who was driving "enthusiastically" just to see where he lived and see the car wasn't stolen, etc etc... and as you approach the window, the kid sticks a tape recorder out of the window and says to you "Officer, I will be taping this conversation. Do you have any objections?"

What would your reaction be, considering that you're already in a foul mood? (This is a reasonable assumption as usually this is when the officers are being rude and aggressive as per this discussion) Be honest. What would your reaction be?

I know that I'd get even more jaded and upset, and even though I'd put on a calm exterior for the tape recording, I'd be seething inside, and depending on my vindictive personality, I might just rape you for all you're worth.

Just something to think about I guess?

edit2: Then again I guess it is also possible that the officer gets scared and backs down from your show of resolve and strength

[Guest INASNT]

Seriously most cops that hand out defects dont know shit about cars, let alone car related laws. If they put as much effort into catching criminals as they do with hasselling import drivers Australia would be a safer place.

Wine red 25t

If that same prick keeps handing out tickets for nothing, then send a complaint into the police ethical squad or that other place u can complain about asshole cops. If theres a bunch of you being hasseled then all send in complaints and the pig will get what he desirves.

Just like normal people they are smartasses till they get put in their place.