Advice On How To Deal With A Panel Beater

[Birds]

That's one nasty experience, assuming it's all true (not doubting you, but as always there is two sides blah blah etc.). I wouldn't have paid them a cent for that kind of work. Would have left my car there and called the police. If they are a VACC workshop they will have a legal lien over your vehicle until your payment is made...about the only thing you could have done is called the police to come sort it out. You probably should have paid the extra and got the receipt (as ludicrous as it was, him assuming it to be a no questions cash job in the first place) so you have evidence they worked on it. Cash jobs leave no recourse. Scummy motherf**ker outsourcing work without telling you about it. Out of all the automotive trades, the cheap panel shops seem to be the dodgiest IMO.

Revenge won't get your money back...but man does it feel good.

And given your car was never actually there on paper?

[eightsixboy]

Man thats serious bs. I cant believe he would get someone else to do the work. Theres nothing worse then been f**ked around by panel shops. Similar thing happened to me with my 34, had to take it back to get stuff re painted as they abviously thought I wouldnt notice the inperfections, and they were an expensive prestige panle shop to, lucky I didnt have to pay anything.

I just hope at best this thread can serve as a warning to people to be very carefull with panel shops, theres so many dodgy ones out there it makes me sick.

[PurpleR32]

That's one nasty experience, assuming it's all true (not doubting you, but as always there is two sides blah blah etc.). I wouldn't have paid them a cent for that kind of work. Would have left my car there and called the police. If they are a VACC workshop they will have a legal lien over your vehicle until your payment is made...about the only thing you could have done is called the police to come sort it out. You probably should have paid the extra and got the receipt (as ludicrous as it was, him assuming it to be a no questions cash job in the first place) so you have evidence they worked on it. Cash jobs leave no recourse. Scummy motherf**ker outsourcing work without telling you about it. Out of all the automotive trades, the cheap panel shops seem to be the dodgiest IMO.

Revenge won't get your money back...but man does it feel good.

And given your car was never actually there on paper?

Call the ATO tax evasion hotline or fill out an online application

http://www.ato.gov.au/corporate/content.aspx?doc=/content/30332.htm&pc=001/001/008/007&mnu=0&mfp=&st=&cy=1

Pretty simple and VERY effective. The ATO loves hunting people in the cash economy.

[Birds]

Wow, I was thinking you should dob them in for tax, but didn't know there were services set up to do that. The more you know!

[PurpleR32]

Wow, I was thinking you should dob them in for tax, but didn't know there were services set up to do that. The more you know!

Yep and they take no receipt/cash only deals VERY seriously.

[Jap_Muscle]

First off I'd just like to Thanks for listening, I feel like we gotta stick together in this shit to make ppl not go through the same shit. You know whole I was waiting those 4 hrs I called legalaid, I calle the police and even called Michael Kalzilny from MKLAW.com.au to ask for advice. They all said the same thing.

I couldn't take the car because work has commenced. If I do they all the cops and I'm

In trouble

I have to pay what the panel shop wants even if it's outrageous.

When I pay. I need to tell him I'm paying in protest and will be lodging a complaint via consumer affairs.

I then need to go home, write up a formal letter explaining the situation, a resolution, a timeframe to respond and consequences if they do not respond. I need to sen it via registered post to leave a paper trail.

Only after the timeframe has ended can I lodge a complaint with Consumer affairs which will 6weeks to assess. After 6 weeks they will contact the panel beater and influence a more professional deal. But the panel beater dosnt even need to respond or speak to them. If they ignore consumer affairs it will be passed on to VCAT ( who is the tribunal and separate from consumer affairs) and will take up to 16 weeks to assess.

Only then can I request the compension of money lost on a poor job ect to get my money back.

I was so over with it I just paid =[

But thanks for the heads up about the tax dob in.

r31nismoid, this panel shop has a profile on sau. What stops me from leaving bad public feedback and licking it to this thread? Is there any legal issues? I obviously don't want SAU sued but feel really strongly about getting the word out.

Edited June 3, 2011 by Jap_Muscle

[R31Nismoid]

r31nismoid, this panel shop has a profile on sau. What stops me from leaving bad public feedback and licking it to this thread? Is there any legal issues? I obviously don't want SAU sued but feel really strongly about getting the word out.

The SAU Feedback is for transactions that take part via SAU (ie the For Sale area, Trader area).

What happened to you is external to SAU.

Think like Ebay feedback - it's exactly the same principle.

You can't just go and leave bad feedback for someone on Ebay for something that had nothing to do with Ebay

End of the day whilst you might feel stronly about it, it has nothing to do with SAU.

Too some extent you harbour blame here too and hence SAU will not become involved directly or indirectly. Once you have a court ruling you are more than welcome to come back and name names. Don't care then as a court has decided.

Nothing wrong with people asking you via PM for the workshop name as i stated earlier, anyone with half an idea will already know who you are talking about anyway.

I know you might think I'm a cvnt for the view above, but there is a much bigger picture here.

[jezza boii]

Can you please PM the name of the business? Cheers.

[Birds]

Think like Ebay feedback - it's exactly the same principle.

You can't just go and leave bad feedback for someone on Ebay for something that had nothing to do with Ebay

Some people seem to think differently! I purchased something on eBay once and left negative feedback because the seller was very lazy. He threatened me, said they were going to find me and knock my teeth out if I didn't retract the feedback. When that got him nowhere, he "bought" a heap of expensive items from my eBay store, leaving negative feedback for all of them straight afterwards. Said funny things like "item didn't work properly, was covered in dirt etc." Was a lulzy moment of rage.

[femno]

I can see how you would struggle to run a business properly.

[Mohsen]

I had someone do this to us lol. Had it all removed by the days end.

Some people seem to think differently! I purchased something on eBay once and left negative feedback because the seller was very lazy. He threatened me, said they were going to find me and knock my teeth out if I didn't retract the feedback. When that got him nowhere, he "bought" a heap of expensive items from my eBay store, leaving negative feedback for all of them straight afterwards. Said funny things like "item didn't work properly, was covered in dirt etc." Was a lulzy moment of rage.

[Jap_Muscle]

The SAU Feedback is for transactions that take part via SAU (ie the For Sale area, Trader area).

What happened to you is external to SAU.

Think like Ebay feedback - it's exactly the same principle.

You can't just go and leave bad feedback for someone on Ebay for something that had nothing to do with Ebay

End of the day whilst you might feel stronly about it, it has nothing to do with SAU.

Too some extent you harbour blame here too and hence SAU will not become involved directly or indirectly. Once you have a court ruling you are more than welcome to come back and name names. Don't care then as a court has decided.

Nothing wrong with people asking you via PM for the workshop name as i stated earlier, anyone with half an idea will already know who you are talking about anyway.

I know you might think I'm a cvnt for the view above, but there is a much bigger picture here.

I here ya buddy, its a real shame though. I wish i could just tell everyone who it was.

[Birds]

I had someone do this to us lol. Had it all removed by the days end.

Yeah they removed it after 24 hours. eBay processes are a bureaucratic pain in the ass.

[SS8_Gohan]

if the story went as you described, i'm thinking it's not the original place i was thinking of...

not naming names, but was this place recently involved in a high profile car insurance company build-up, which the car was available to be won via competition?

[Jap_Muscle]

i cant say that i know Daniel, Sorry

[Downforce]

it wasn't PAC/POLO daniel. it also was not Vu/DT panels.

[alr33x]

pm me name of workshop

and i personally wouldnt have paid a cent

[SS8_Gohan]

i was thinking perhaps Jetspeed, they were involved in the Just Car 34

[Charles89]

Sorry to hear all that man...

Can you please PM me the place?

Oh and just like "another stolen thread".

[jezza boii]

I never got a PM If someone finds out please let me know coz I'm getting more panel work done soon..