Newbie Asking For Advice.

[SimonR32]

Hes telling me what I want to hear because hes actually saying 450hp can be done and telling me parts to do it with.

I've looked at most of that RB25 build thread and its given me alot of options which is where I took most of my ideal parts from.

Not really fussed on the overall price, parts are cheap! I really cant get over how cheap aftermarket parts are for these things.

The 3076 just seems a little small to me. which is why im opting for the 3582 or 3540.

sriver killer, dont be so bloody stupid.

Im a revhead, obviously, all i want is a high mount turbo, screamer, big top end rush, big frount mount and over 400rwhp. (AS A STARTING POINT) The cars can be had for cheap and modified for cheap.

Thats why im here. I dont care if its got lag til 4000rpm. I dont care if its obnoxiously loud. I know what I want, im asking for advice to get what I want, it may not be the ideal setup or as fast as some other set upts or as cheap, but its what I want!! not be told its going to be shit, laggy, etc etc.

And having worked on a mates VL turbo with a stock internal RB25 in it, chinese manifold, monsta brand super T70, chinese inlet manifold, hybrid cooler, 300 dollar home made exhaust, cheap ebay fuel system. it made 300rwkw and ran 12.8@116mph with a gay launch. 2.3 60ft. the only decent thing in that car was the tune by incar at wetherilpark.

Thats what makes me want the stuff I want!!

3582R is a 3040R same same... They are dogs of turbos on RB25's!

For instance a high mount kit like mine makes a lot more power than your suggestions, for a lot cheaper and with a lot better response

Plus runs 1.8sec and 17mph faster than you mates lighter VL haha

Except the fact that 300rwkw and 116mph in a VL don't add up...

300rwhp is around 116mph in a VL

[R31Nismoid]

I'd give him 340rwhp (250rwkw) just to be generous

[wolverine]

3582R is a 3040R same same... They are dogs of turbos on RB25's!

Actually they aren't quite the same. A GT3040 is GT3082 so it has the smaller 60mm turbine.

They aren't anywhere near as doggy as people make out here on the forum. Sure there are better turbos out there today (and probably yesterday too) but on an RB25 they make power pretty much the same as the GT3076 but have too much compressor flow for the turbine. So wheeling around the extra drag of the larger compressor means you possibly lose some transient response.

At the right price they are an option to consider if you are on a budget and can find one in good nick 2nd hand.

[R31Nismoid]

they can be a bit surge prone though. My 3040 did ever so slightly, due to the larger wheel as already covered.

[SimonR32]

Actually they aren't quite the same. A GT3040 is GT3082 so it has the smaller 60mm turbine.

They aren't anywhere near as doggy as people make out here on the forum. Sure there are better turbos out there today (and probably yesterday too) but on an RB25 they make power pretty much the same as the GT3076 but have too much compressor flow for the turbine. So wheeling around the extra drag of the larger compressor means you possibly lose some transient response.

At the right price they are an option to consider if you are on a budget and can find one in good nick 2nd hand.

sorry that was a typo, was meant to say 3540 not 3040. If you look he posted 3540 :-)

[AngryRB]

Except the fact that 300rwkw and 116mph in a VL don't add up...

Hey shouldnt 300kws be faster than 12.8 my bro's r33 does 13flat with only 210kws.. do they have massive wheels spin with only 2wd???

[stiddy]

long time no post.

Ok, so the cars got more than I originally thought.

Forged rods and pistons, tomei cams and cam gears, high flowed turbo with bigger compressor housing and stainless steel shaft/wheels, high flow fuel pump and 480cc injectors. twin plate clutch, 1.5way lsd.. screamer pipe and a few other odds and ends..

Ive ordred a blitz/trust intercooler, purely for better flow over the shitty hybrid one on there. forward facing plenum, 90mm t/b.. hks fuel rail and 740cc injectors, sard fuel pressure reg, surge tank and bosch 044 ext pump.

Going to CRD for a aftermarket ECU and custom tune,

Hopefully get something decent out of it.

keep you guys updated..

[Beer Baron]

honestly if you just want the show and sound factor of big turbo/ext gate maybe look at a trust kit? like a TD06 or T67 with gate?

that will make a nice 250-300rwkw and give the looks and sound you want.

btw what is a "blitz/trust" intercooler?

[stiddy]

honestly if you just want the show and sound factor of big turbo/ext gate maybe look at a trust kit? like a TD06 or T67 with gate?

that will make a nice 250-300rwkw and give the looks and sound you want.

btw what is a "blitz/trust" intercooler?

I was looking on ebay, type in trust cooler, and it comes up with a blitz one, type in blitz and it comes up with a 'blitz/trust' intercooler..

I dont know if they are different or one and the same. but aslong as it works i dont care. and im not spending a couple of grand on a nismo one.

As for the trust turbo kit you've mentioned I had a look at them, they look ok. But i'll stick with the high mount manifold and GT3582, .84 rear that im looking at for now.

I want more than 300rwkw now knowing its got forged internals and what not. Just keep pushing it until we find its happy limit. I can see me blowing it up and starting over lol.

Cant do a hell of alot to it at the moment as im driving it daily while the XR8 is off the road gettin some mods done to it, its not what I planned, I only wanted the skyline to come out

weekends and trackdays. but hopefully the xr8 will be back on the road soon and the skyline back in the garage to finally get my hands dirty on it.

[stiddy]

Another update, pics soon.

The engine has come out after it emptying the sump out of the catch can after 2 full boost pulls.. then finding compression to be 60psi on cylinder 1. lol. ops.. 1.7 bar at 9000rpm? maybe the reason why.

The turbo thats on there, im not sure. Its still a low mount but its big. its got a spacer which keeps the front housing about 5mm off the engine, but its almost touching the strut tower, well I think the actuator does.

It is a Garrett and it will be for sale shortly with the manifold, dump, intake pipe, oil feed and drains etc etc.. its MUCH bigger than stock and wasn't laggy . I remember showing a mate that it was getting 1.7bar at 3600-3800rpm. Boost 1st 2nd and 3rd smoked the 255 circuit tyres.

So far no one knows what it is, i'll get it off and go to GCG and see if they can tell me lol.

Anyhow. The engine is out, and was sent off to get machined, honed, bored, decked, grouted and whatever else they do to it.

After recieving it, have filled it with oversize CP pistons, Manley rods, arp bolts, nitto oil pump, acl 'black' series barings and blah.

The head sent to lewis race engines for his 'race' port job, 1mm overisze valves, springs and to be bolted to the block with a tomeii head gasket and arp bolts again.

Still undecided with cams so the tomei poncams stay until a decision is made, ie solid lifter conversion and bigger procams/cam gears and loose the vct.

Plazmaman plenum and t/b to be used with a trust intercooler. Fuel system is getting overhauled. keep the nismo to feed a surge, aeromotive 1500hp pump from surge, big rail and 1200cc injectors for now.

Turbo is a Borgwarner 366.., but that could change, the new EFR 83/74 look great, but so do the GTX35/82R.. Already have a turbosmart 50mm gate, and still waiting on my 6boost manifold.

the HKS exhaust will be pulled off and sold, replaced with a Apexi N1 pro system or 3.5inch Xforce.

Haltech platinum pro is taking care of the tuning side. Havent got a tuner yet lol. Probably Payden.

So as you can see the 400rwhp goal is out the window, will fill up on E85, run 30psi and see what she makes, heres hoping we see 500rwkw..

My comments about parts being cheap, I still kinda agree with that, but lots of cheap parts eventually adds up to 1 expensive bill lol.

parts alone so far am over 13k not inc labour because I do the work myself. But its easily a 20k build for someone planing to do similar.

Will still little odds and end that ive no doubt forgot about. IE new radiator, thermos, battery, probably clutch. etc etc..

Cheers,

Matt

[BMYHOE]

sounds like fun will need some vids when she is done

[Hadouken]

Must be 2 of the big ones

I've seen you drive kid, you're going to blow yourself to bits.

So you want bling bling lag lag?

[stiddy]

So you want bling bling lag lag?

Umm.. yeah because bling parts on a built engine, GTX35r (or EFR equivalent) and E85 will be laggy.

[Hadouken]

Righto, last I read you wanted a t04z. How long you gonna go without getting a defect?

I'm just saying, with the heightened suspicion on these cars you're bound to get done, seeing as its going to be loud and screaming.

[Rolls]

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I want to know what you are going to do when you get pulled over and defected, what the hell are you going to do then? and don't say it won't happen, if you have all these silly high mount shiny parts and drive it at 9000rpm with 1.7 bar on the street with a screamer it is simply a matter of time.

Also a GTX35r with E85 willy be laggy.

[stiddy]

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I want to know what you are going to do when you get pulled over and defected, what the hell are you going to do then? and don't say it won't happen, if you have all these silly high mount shiny parts and drive it at 9000rpm with 1.7 bar on the street with a screamer it is simply a matter of time.

Also a GTX35r with E85 willy be laggy.

Eatme - Before doing any research and speaking to any tuners I thought T04z.. I stepped it down and snapped up a BW airwerks turbo for a case of beer off a friend.

But after speaking to 4-5 tuners now, they all are telling me the GTX35R twin scroll is the best turbo to use.. 1 tuner is pushing strongly for me to put a EFR on it. All tuners say minimal lag and stupid mid range with strong top end.

Rolls - 1.7bar is just a number, more fuel and boost will be screwed into it til it says enough and just see what we come up with.

Baring in mind its not a daily driver, its a car that will come out of the garage for cruises, track days, wsid, and whatever else. Like once a week, if that!

Will it get defected.. yeah, probably will lol. As if people from the modified car scene are worried about defects these days? fark, its 2012 now, you still take your car for pinks and blues? geez. Phone call and it all goes away.

The car itself stands out like dogsnuts anyway. Its a silver Tommy Kaira with the genuine kit so the massive rear spoiler and low front bar. thats been lowered on hks coil overs to 80mm off the deck, the big tommy kaira sticker up both sides and its got chrome 18in workmeisters with chucky semi slicks on it. Its bound to attract plenty of attention, good and bad.

Plus im not the guy thats going to be cracking gate, throwing flames and painting lines off every set of lights, I leave that stuff to the track. Funnily enough ive only ever been defected by the dogs in blue waiting outside wsid picking people up leaving a legal event that they are pushing for us to do.

Anyway thanks for the kind words of encouragment guys

[Rolls]

As if people from the modified car scene are worried about defects these days? fark, its 2012 now, you still take your car for pinks and blues? geez. Phone call and it all goes away.

Hope you look forward to joining the 20 blokes that got busted for paying someone at the RTA to get their car off defect. The bloke who was organising it is looking at 2 years jail time.

[Hadouken]

Each to their own I suppose.

IS that what you are going for?

I dont get the appeal! Am I missing something?

[Rolls]

That would just make me lose sleep at night worrying how long until the cops f**k me over, I wouldn't even be able to enjoy it.

[stiddy]

Hope you look forward to joining the 20 blokes that got busted for paying someone at the RTA to get their car off defect. The bloke who was organising it is looking at 2 years jail time.

Yeah im a bad person blah blah blah.

Im building a car that is going to go like a cut cat and look good doing it, bling, loud noises, whatever. Because you dont approve doesnt mean you need to give me shit.

I dont troll your threads and pick on your attempt at building a car, say your doing it wrong, its shit you'll get defected and whatever else.

A cop, being a prick could defect almost every car on this forum if he wanted to even a stock one. (Yes, also having police friends that have told me this and do, do this). Let the defects come and watch them go. You think im the only one on here that makes a call to get rid of them? People wish they could make a call for shit like that. Rather than changing things, get the car passed then changing things back.. Save the time and hassel and find a dodgy bloke. Note. Funny story - Said policeman friend called me asking if I can get his 200sx a dodgy blue for rego.

Says alot doesnt it.

Yes you could argue, do it right the first time, make it all perfectly legal and passable and don't get defected to begin with, but we aren't in a perfect world, ANY modification is a defect. So its almost impossible.

Then argue about engineers cert and stuff, they are easy to get done aswell. All comes down to making that phone call, they just cost more lol.

No one has to agree with you or do it your way OR the 'right' way. So stop getting your panties in a knot and pull ya head in.

Now i'll sit back and watch the PM's come in from the unfortunate people like yourself that don't have these people to call asking if I can put them onto someone that will engineer their car or clear a defect

Thanks again for the kind words.

Think to, if I was worried about getting busted, would I be posting on a public forum? hmm..

Maybe later this arvo i'll put up some pics of the car