Queensland P-Plater Laws

[biggest_kid]

Hey guys first post here woooo. So sorry if this is in the wrong place, admins please feel free to move it if it is.

Anyway I just got my P license a couple of weeks ago and was looking to buy a car. Ive been extremely keen on buying either a Nissan 200SX or 300ZX as i love the general shape and look of these cars, and ive also heard great things about Nissans in general. Now i dont know much about cars, and so i need some help from you guys.

The Queensland Laws in regards to high powered cars are as follows:

High powered vehicle restrictionsA high powered vehicle restriction means that you are not allowed to drive what the law calls a “high powered vehicle” on a road.

If you are:

• under 25 and on your P1 or P2 licence
• any age but on your P1 licence after being disqualified for an offence which happened when you were under 25

then it is against the law for you to drive a high powered vehicle on a road.

The law says that a high powered vehicle includes:

• an engine that has a power output of more that 200 kW
• an engine with eight or more cylinders
• a turbo charged or supercharged engine (but not diesel powered engines).

So ive mostly been looking through the news paper and on www.carsales.com.au for a car, and am getting confused about what I am allowed to drive and what Im not allowed to drive.

Take this 300ZX for example, it specifically says non-turbo, but is its engine output under 200kW? (And yes i know its kms are quite high but im still looking and just posting it up for examples sake)

The same with this one, it also says non-turbo. (This one is 4 seater which i like more because i have friends i like to drive around). What does the cc value of an engine mean? Because i think these are both 2960cc engines.

Thanks a lot for any help,

Isaac

[Truffles]

Welcome!

If you're ever unsure about a car's power output, try wikipedia or redbook. They'll generally have what you need to know.

http://en.wikipedia....G_engine#VG30DE - The VG30DE engine the the 300ZX makes 166kw at the flywheel and is legal for Queensland provisional license holders.

The cc of an engine signifiies the displacement. In the case of the 300ZX and the 2960cc, it's a 3 Litres engine. 1000cc is the equivilent to one litre.

Edited June 5, 2011 by Truffles

[Darmanin10]

Hey guys first post here woooo. So sorry if this is in the wrong place, admins please feel free to move it if it is.

Anyway I just got my P license a couple of weeks ago and was looking to buy a car. Ive been extremely keen on buying either a Nissan 200SX or 300ZX as i love the general shape and look of these cars, and ive also heard great things about Nissans in general. Now i dont know much about cars, and so i need some help from you guys.

The Queensland Laws in regards to high powered cars are as follows:

So ive mostly been looking through the news paper and on www.carsales.com.au for a car, and am getting confused about what I am allowed to drive and what Im not allowed to drive.

Take this 300ZX for example, it specifically says non-turbo, but is its engine output under 200kW? (And yes i know its kms are quite high but im still looking and just posting it up for examples sake)

The same with this one, it also says non-turbo. (This one is 4 seater which i like more because i have friends i like to drive around). What does the cc value of an engine mean? Because i think these are both 2960cc engines.

Thanks a lot for any help,

Isaac

hey bro.

Just to help you out Both the 300zx and 200sx have power outputs below 200KW

like the guy above said look through wiki:

300ZX - Nissan 300ZX

200SX - Nissan Silvia

By the way im not sure there are many Non turbo/Super charged 6 Cylinder or less cars above 200KW anyway.

[Truffles]

hey bro.

Just to help you out Both the 300zx and 200sx have power outputs below 200KW

like the guy above said look through wiki:

300ZX - Nissan 300ZX

200SX - Nissan Silvia

By the way im not sure there are many Non turbo/Super charged 6 Cylinder or less cars above 200KW anyway.

unfortunately, the S14 200SX was Australian delivered and they were all turbo. Therefore, you won't get a N/A S14 200sx that's legal for a QLD [P] plater.

And you're generally correct. Apart from the SIDI commodore and the V35/350Z, I can't think of many N/A 6 cylinders that make 200kw that aren't highend. Like an BMW E36 M3. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The main point is that the 300ZX is completely fine.

Edit: Toyota Aurion makes 200kw on the nose, but no one wants FWD.

Edited June 5, 2011 by Truffles

[biggest_kid]

Ok thank you so much for the help guys, you just made me very happy haha.

One more question, do any of you guys know how good/bad the 300zx is on fuel consumption/cost?

Thanks again

Edited June 5, 2011 by biggest_kid

[mad082]

a 300zx will have ordinary fuel economy, since they are a v6 and a bit on the heavy side. the economy would be similar to that of a commodore or falcon. somewhere in the range of 10 to 16L/100kms, depending on driving. highway will be down around 10L/100kms (or even a touch less), but heavy traffic and giving it the beans on a regular basis will see it up around 16L/100kms.

[Darmanin10]

unfortunately, the S14 200SX was Australian delivered and they were all turbo. Therefore, you won't get a N/A S14 200sx that's legal for a QLD [P] plater.

And you're generally correct. Apart from the SIDI commodore and the V35/350Z, I can't think of many N/A 6 cylinders that make 200kw that aren't highend. Like an BMW E36 M3. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The main point is that the 300ZX is completely fine.

Edit: Toyota Aurion makes 200kw on the nose, but no one wants FWD.

ok thanks for that piece of info, that explains why it was very very rare to find a non turbo s14 in AUS (ive only seen 1 or 2 for sale)

[Darmanin10]

Ok thank you so much for the help guys, you just made me very happy haha.

One more question, do any of you guys know how good/bad the 300zx is on fuel consumption/cost?

Thanks again

a 300zx will have ordinary fuel economy, since they are a v6 and a bit on the heavy side. the economy would be similar to that of a commodore or falcon. somewhere in the range of 10 to 16L/100kms, depending on driving. highway will be down around 10L/100kms (or even a touch less), but heavy traffic and giving it the beans on a regular basis will see it up around 16L/100kms.

mad082 basically sumed it up......3.0L V6 and at roughly 1500KG it will tend to use a fair amount of fuel.

[adamskill]

300zx = engine out.

[sneakey pete]

Its non turbo though, not so bad.