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Snowman Grand Master

Snowman

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Indeed I am. And I am shortly going to make a trip to QLD to look at both TQ's and gaints cars should they still be available. And I will weighing up the options against importing a race only / Rally Reg one from Japan (which go for around 4.5M yen now).

But none of that changes the fact that if you were looking at buying one of those ex Targa ones - and depending on where you live - if you get pulled over by some unfriendly's then some things that they might jump up and down about are going to be DAMN hard to fix.

It's easy to swap and exhaust back to stock if you get in trouble for it being to loud. But it's not so easy to retro-fit the standard seat belts back into a car that now has a massive weld in cage through the B Pillar where the seat belts used to go! It's stupid because we all know a 6 point harness is going to do a better job at stopping you than a standard 3 point seat-belt but it doesn't change the fact that the law doesn't care. Then there is the airbags, the rear seats (lack of - but you will still get grief for blocking access to them with the cage) etc etc.

Those of us with steet reg'd Targa cars run the gauntlet ever time we drive them - but we all know the consequences. But then for us getting Rally reg if it comes to it is no big deal given really the only time we drive these cars is to, from and at racing events. It's why the guy who has purchased my old R34 has gone straight to Rally reg even though my car did still have street rego - just to avoid this potential drama.

Munro Experienced

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Thats why I went sick on my 9 second Drag R33 GTR and turned it into a circuit car for private track days,

and will leave my R35 in street tune (interior wise anyway!) so I cant get in to grief if I do find myself on the side

of the road with an admirer.

Funny thing is these days I can get over 500 kw at wheels out of the R35 while it still looks stock and the

R33 is a fire breathing monster at that power level.

My old R33 "street GTR" was runing 450 awkw and used to rock at the traffic lights like it was on something.

I remember a few years ago pulling up at the lights next to a cop bike and he just pulled up his helmet and

shook his head at me.... respect!

I wish I could get my R35 to cam over like that at the lights.

Nee-san Grand Master

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Thats why I went sick on my 9 second Drag R33 GTR and turned it into a circuit car for private track days,

and will leave my R35 in street tune (interior wise anyway!) so I cant get in to grief if I do find myself on the side

of the road with an admirer.

Funny thing is these days I can get over 500 kw at wheels out of the R35 while it still looks stock and the

R33 is a fire breathing monster at that power level.

My old R33 "street GTR" was runing 450 awkw and used to rock at the traffic lights like it was on something.

I remember a few years ago pulling up at the lights next to a cop bike and he just pulled up his helmet and

shook his head at me.... respect!

I wish I could get my R35 to cam over like that at the lights.

Get bigger cams... Lol.

Jap_Muscle Mentor

Jap_Muscle

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yeah but you do realize if you buy one of those Targa cars as a road car and get pulled over you are pretty stuffed.

Could you elaborate on exactly what kind of issues i may run into with the authorities?

Thats why I went sick on my 9 second Drag R33 GTR and turned it into a circuit car for private track days,

and will leave my R35 in street tune (interior wise anyway!) so I cant get in to grief if I do find myself on the side

of the road with an admirer.

Funny thing is these days I can get over 500 kw at wheels out of the R35 while it still looks stock and the

R33 is a fire breathing monster at that power level.

My old R33 "street GTR" was runing 450 awkw and used to rock at the traffic lights like it was on something.

I remember a few years ago pulling up at the lights next to a cop bike and he just pulled up his helmet and

shook his head at me.... respect!

I wish I could get my R35 to cam over like that at the lights.

I completely understand how u feel Munro.

Sometimes i feel like i should invest in a blown out r34 GTR with something like a T51R on a 2.8 stroker ect and have a Toyota Prius as a daily LOL.

Its just something about a lumpy rb that sends shivers down my spine =]

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Martin Donnon Mentor

Martin Donnon

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Hi guys, i'm in the Market for a new car and have been looking into the new HSV GTS E3 range with a walkinshaw package. However the price is tipping into the JDM r35 price range.

The two cars have nothing in common, as I am sure you have worked out by now.

Last issue Wheels or whatever it was had one of these 400rwkw blown HSV 0-400m: 13 seconds (around standard HSV times) and GTR 0-400m in 11.2 or something. They would feel - very - different. The GTR would feel like a missile in comparison. Those supercharged HSVs are normally very slow and noisy to drive.

Nee-san Grand Master

Nee-san

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The two cars have nothing in common, as I am sure you have worked out by now.

Last issue Wheels or whatever it was had one of these 400rwkw blown HSV 0-400m: 13 seconds (around standard HSV times) and GTR 0-400m in 11.2 or something. They would feel - very - different. The GTR would feel like a missile in comparison. Those supercharged HSVs are normally very slow and noisy to drive.

Just can't get them to launch with any sort of vigor it seems :miner:

Jap_Muscle Mentor

Jap_Muscle

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Would anyone be able to confirm some rumors ive been reading about the r35s "Launch Control" issues that were floating around?

Ive done some research and watched the video on youtube where GT Channel interviews one of the cheif engineers about the launch control issue. and these are the details ive found. Any help much appreciated.

  • With VDC on, Nissan claim a 3.5sec 0-100 time
  • Online rumors claim a 3.3sec 0-100 time can be achieved with VDC off
  • Nissan explain that VDC off is only to be used to get the vehicle out of mud/snow
  • Nissan explained that with VDC on, it can still do the same 0-100times as with VDC off
  • Launching the car with VDC off can damage the gearbox and void warrenty due to high temperatures.
  • Online rumors claim that launches with VDC off does not invalidate warranty unless crashed during VDC being switched off (which can be confirmed by data logging)

It also seems that there is a large topic about the "Launch Control" versions Nissan currently have employed.

  • The R35 originally came with LC1, which allowed the car to stall to 4000rpm with VDC off
  • After a number of gearboxes failing with LC1, Nissan developed LC2 which dropped the RPM from 4000 to 3000. No limit was opposed on the amount of launches at this point and this form of launch control did not need VDC to be off.
  • Rumours claim that Nissan is in the works about developing a LC4 where the ECU will only allow up to 4 launches in a row depending on gearbox temperatures. The advantage of this is that you dont have to worry about voiding the warrenty as the ECU will only allow x amount of safe launches.

Finally, how does all this affect me if i am purchasing a 08/09 JDM GTR? would it be possible to send the car back to Nissan Japan to get a ECU reflash with the new launch controls?

Thanks again for any help.

Snowman Grand Master

Snowman

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A couple of key points to note I guess.

Firstly - there were only handful of JDM cars imported to Oz and they were all here before Nissan Oz released their first car. Once Nissan delivered the first one here (to some lucky bloke) there were no more JDM cars legally allowed to be registered.

Consequently ALL of the JDM cars registered in Oz were Series 1 cars that had the LC1 software (so they will all be 08's). However - all of the Oz delivered cars have been at minimum Series 2 with the LC2 software (they are up to Series 4 now with the 2011 DBAR35's). The Series 3 cars are different to the Series 2 mostly in the MFD (has GPS etc which the first Oz delivered cars didn't have).

As for how you'd best go about upgrading a S1 JDM car to a newer version of the LC software I have no idea. The Cobb's these days have a TCM module available to let you change the launch RPM to what ever you like so it's really a moot point other than I'm pretty sure VDC MUST be off for LC to activate in the S1 cars - so there might be some added risk to the boxes.

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Jap_Muscle

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:blush: maybe quinn will give me a commission?! or maybe you will for saving you dough!? haha, it certainly is keenly priced. hope you get it mate. it's ADM for the price of a race only JDM. not to mention it being a targa winning car this year. should still be pretty fresh. I can't think of a better car for $95K.

Well i just heard back from the owner. Was sold about 2weeks ago =[

the search continues =[

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