M35 2Jz

[joshm35]

Hey,

I love the m35 stagea. The body style is awesome but I feel the issues with the engine and low turbo life is letting it down. This is where I come to my next question. If later on down the track I was to put a 2jz (personsal favourite) would I still use the m35 ecu to run the cars features minus engine and gearbox control. would I run into any limp mode issues or will that be over as I would have you use a throttle cable. I am after answers not to be critisied guys. I know there are alot of guys who like the engine in the stageas and im not going to say anything. This is just a personal interest for myself.

Cheers josh

[Jetwreck]

Sorry Josh.......you lost me on this.....while the 2JZ is a great motor it's "-" factor is huge compared to something like a VQ platform.

I am sure there are a couple of guy's on here that will tell you the first thing that even the VQ25 does better is torque....then there's the weight of the cast Iron block....ect!!!!....we have only just started to play with this motor and we are up to 300AWKW's /1100nm's.....and remember we are still on the standard turbo housings with that!..........I wonder what that would be in 2WD land!....not to mention then going to a VQ35!

If you don't like VQ's you can alway's go to the Nissan V8's or even a Gen III!

Tractor cast iron straight line six's are a thing of the past!....If you want to get this thing to hunt in the 11's it needs to go on a major diet and be Manual

Has someone kidnapped you profile from a Toyota site?????

Edited June 20, 2011 by Jetwreck

[JayM35]

Minus the sound of the 2JZ... I see no point in the swap.

Will upset the weight dist... Just like dickheads putting RB's into S-chassis.

[SMOKEYV35]

the obvious question would be 'why would you', and in the next breath i'd say 'doesn't matter - you won't'.

but in all seriousness, you would probably have better luck and better results privately importing one of these.

Toyota Crown Estate

[bigkevracer]

Hey,

I love the m35 stagea. The body style is awesome but I feel the issues with the engine and low turbo life is letting it down. This is where I come to my next question. If later on down the track I was to put a 2jz (personsal favourite) would I still use the m35 ecu to run the cars features minus engine and gearbox control. would I run into any limp mode issues or will that be over as I would have you use a throttle cable. I am after answers not to be critisied guys. I know there are alot of guys who like the engine in the stageas and im not going to say anything. This is just a personal interest for myself.

Cheers josh

Well despite the issues others have mentioned, will it even physically fit? Isn't the 2JZ an inline 6, whereas the VQ25 is a V6, which would make it shorter?

And if you're using a 2JZ + Manual trans with aftermarket engine management and a cable throttle, I don't see why you'd have any issues with limp mode or anything. I don't know if you can use the M35 computer to just run accessories, windows, etc and use the aftermarket stuff for engine and trans?

For all the headaches you'd have, I think you'd be far better off with a VQ35 and a turbo, maybe HKS kit like someone on here has (but hasn't fitted because he's slack and gone to Japan... )

[joshm35]

As I said personal interest. Not saying that I would just asking what it would envolve and issues would arrise. Thanks for your comments

[scotty nm35]

You would have to cut the firewall for a start, best to just buy a supra if youre a 2j fanboi.

[horrace]

Just do some basic measurements to see it it's doable, I'm mean 2j's fit in s13's easy enough. Im all for something different so DO IT!!!!

[joshm35]

Scotty. Had an aristo as my last car bud so been down that road.

Horrace - im the same bud. Its funny to see peoples opinion.

As I said its all to peoples liking and that would be what I like just needed some questions answered

[lilcrash]

On a side note. There is an adaptor that let's you use the Nissan 4wd gearbox behind a *jz engine. Not sure if it will suit the m35 auto but it does fit the c34 manual box. I looked into it a while ago.

[Sunkist]

can I ask what benefit you believe you'll get from doing this?

[Jetwreck]

can I ask what benefit you believe you'll get from doing this?

It's different......but then again so is the Stagea.....I guess it's a matter of how unique you want to go! IMO it's taking a 2000+ model car back to the 90's.

Edited June 20, 2011 by Jetwreck

[Sunkist]

It's different......but then again so is the Stagea.....I guess it's a matter of how unique you want to go! IMO it's taking a 2000+ model car back to the 90's.

lol nah seriously

there is also the whole legal side of it, engineering the engine. IF someone will actually do it its definitely going to cost more than its worth

[lilcrash]

can I ask what benefit you believe you'll get from doing this?

For me it's the reliability of a Toyota motor. The only thing worse then a Nissan motor is a vw/Audi engine

[Sunkist]

but there are no faults with the vq25.

apart from the common turbo issue, which wouldnt be fixed with a straight block lol

[lilcrash]

You make a point. I've never driven a vq25 so I can't really complain.

[66yostagea]

I am not normally a Toyota fan, but the blue Crown Wagon is, to me, seriously HOT.

It seems to have an S1 front with a not too sloped rear I find the 35's too Volvo.

Look up on Google for this wagon and you will find some great pics.

Now going to wash my mouth out. (With a VB) LOL .

[iamhe77]

Hey,

I love the m35 stagea. The body style is awesome but I feel the issues with the engine and low turbo life is letting it down. This is where I come to my next question. If later on down the track I was to put a 2jz (personsal favourite) would I still use the m35 ecu to run the cars features minus engine and gearbox control. would I run into any limp mode issues or will that be over as I would have you use a throttle cable. I am after answers not to be critisied guys. I know there are alot of guys who like the engine in the stageas and im not going to say anything. This is just a personal interest for myself.

Cheers josh

Maybe you should've had that in bold lol

You will run into issues, no doubt. Anything can fit with enough money thrown at it, but putting a 2j in an M35 would seriously screw the excellent weight distribution among other things.

You may have a little trouble controlling the variable valve without the stock ECU I would think (again, depending on which ECU you used)

The amount of cash it would cost to put a 2j + trans (+ AWD?), you could probably buy a Crown Estate OR built up the M35's engine and trans for some pretty serious power.

Seriously, if you want a 2j that bad, sell your M35 and get a Crown Estate.

[zei20l]

i rekon it would be cheaper to build up a monster VQ25DET and have a custom manual AWD box done.

[iamhe77]

100% agree