jangles Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) If we ditched the $5,800,000 hawks deal it wouldn't even matter if footy in the south broke even, since it costs $500,000 rather than $5,800,000. Its not worth paying $5,300,000 so a percentage of 40,000 potential football fans from the North West can be two hours closer to a semi-regular football match in Launceston, at the expense of the other 470,000 people. Ditch the Hawks, embrace North Melbourne, maybe pump a couple of mil into the Southern facilities, keep V8 supercars, and then take the majority of the Hawks money thats left and spend it somewhere useful. Seriously EVERYONE would benefit then, not just York Park contractors and Launceston hoteliers. LOL TT-Line...Its all just channeling central government funds, I don't know why they expect anyone to believe otherwise. Lets not go down that route, remember the ridiculous state of affairs here, e.g. Government power regulatory body sets prices, then Government company Hydro sells power, to Government company Aurora. Then Aurora go cap in hand to the Government complaining the price from hydro set by the regulator was too high and they need a $200,000,000 top up, government cries 'we can do nothing!' and across goes the cash; all the while Aurora's wage growth is out of control and we have a couple of million dollars per year of CEOs wages for what was once one company... It is all just smoke and mirrors, shuffling public funds so cronies get their kickbacks while the common folk pay for the game to continue. there goes all your previous stats out the window. millions wasn't that long ago spent on Bellrieve to host cricket. I originally was commenting on the mentality of it being better in Hobart,by a Hobart person, like the Hobart based Premier....you've just gone and strengthened my point. Edited June 29, 2011 by jangles Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/368701-no-more-v8-supercars-for-us/page/3/#findComment-5888865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
floody Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 Not at all. 5.3mil is the difference in cost between footy in the south and footy in the north. When I say pump a couple million into southern facilities I mean over the same period that 18 million would go to the hawks...clearly a couple of million over 3 years is a lot less than nearly 18 million over the same time period. Population stats are the same. 200k people in greater Hobart, 100k in launceston, a little over 40k on the NW coast, out of a population on 510k. There is no compelling argument to have football in launceston at 10x the cost of football in Hobart and you know it. It's gross misuse of state funds. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/368701-no-more-v8-supercars-for-us/page/3/#findComment-5891417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jangles Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 (edited) Not at all. 5.3mil is the difference in cost between footy in the south and footy in the north. When I say pump a couple million into southern facilities I mean over the same period that 18 million would go to the hawks...clearly a couple of million over 3 years is a lot less than nearly 18 million over the same time period. Population stats are the same. 200k people in greater Hobart, 100k in launceston, a little over 40k on the NW coast, out of a population on 510k. There is no compelling argument to have football in launceston at 10x the cost of football in Hobart and you know it. It's gross misuse of state funds. It just sounds like you want the football in Hobart and not Launnie, wouldnt it be great if they spent 100 million on Baskerville and had the V8's there too!!! As said before, AFL and V8's has coincided in the state for years now. TTline 'sponsored' the football in Hobart, They would get way more benefits if they sponsored the V8's, now the state doesn't have money for V8's, yet has money for AFL in Hobart.... AFL in Launnie really has nothing to do with it, the money spent there is for 'sponsorship' it might not return the benefits the government want us to believe, but thats what it is. Edited July 1, 2011 by jangles Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/368701-no-more-v8-supercars-for-us/page/3/#findComment-5891466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoidbergmerc Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 What could you do to baskerville to make it awesome enough for V8s? Pit straight would need to be like doubled. Maybe make whole new section that joins on the current track? It would be nice if it was glassy smooooooth Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/368701-no-more-v8-supercars-for-us/page/3/#findComment-5891532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jangles Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 What could you do to baskerville to make it awesome enough for V8s? Pit straight would need to be like doubled. Maybe make whole new section that joins on the current track? It would be nice if it was glassy smooooooth Thats what i was getting at, A LOT Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/368701-no-more-v8-supercars-for-us/page/3/#findComment-5891652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sav man Posted July 1, 2011 Author Share Posted July 1, 2011 And after all of the work, it would still be in Hobart Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/368701-no-more-v8-supercars-for-us/page/3/#findComment-5891726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jangles Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 And after all of the work, it would still be in Hobart Haha, Ben, SAU needs a like button Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/368701-no-more-v8-supercars-for-us/page/3/#findComment-5891953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toffy Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 What could you do to baskerville to make it awesome enough for V8s? Pit straight would need to be like doubled. Maybe make whole new section that joins on the current track? It would be nice if it was glassy smooooooth Thats what i was getting at, A LOT Basky was kind of supposed to get a grant for 5mil , it was to lengthen the track (so there was a short and a long track) move the pits to the main straight , re lay all the old early 80's bitumen and bring the toilets up to scratch , but it'll never happen Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/368701-no-more-v8-supercars-for-us/page/3/#findComment-5892109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
floody Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 (edited) It just sounds like you want the football in Hobart and not Launnie, wouldnt it be great if they spent 100 million on Baskerville and had the V8's there too!!! Missed point much? I couldn't give a flying f**k about AFL. So I'd like to see them save 5 mil a year and just have one visiting footy sideshow. Pure and simple. Wouldn't matter if North Melbourne played at York park, I don't care, if they'll do it for $500k, theres no point paying Hawthorn $5million! The only reasons I've advocated Hobart is the deal is underway already and it is where the vast majority of the state population resides (but like I say, who cares where the game is as long as its maximum benefit for dollars). Very simple.Ditch one team, save 5 million dollars per year for 3 years. More than enough in the kitty then for motorsport to get a look in, and a lot of FAR more important things. Nobody mentioned baskerville, the only facilities I was referring to were football ones. As said before, AFL and V8's has coincided in the state for years now. TTline 'sponsored' the football in Hobart, They would get way more benefits if they sponsored the V8's, now the state doesn't have money for V8's, yet has money for AFL in Hobart.... Yep, refer to previous response, ditch the $5+ million Hawks contract and have a little bit of footy (instead of lots), and a little bit of motorsport (instead of none), plus a LOT left over for things that are actually important and will affect people other than rabid sports fans. AFL in Launnie really has nothing to do with it, the money spent there is for 'sponsorship' it might not return the benefits the government want us to believe, but thats what it is. And? If they can cancel a V8SC contract they can cancel a football one. Ring legal, tear up contract, done. Edited July 1, 2011 by floody Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/368701-no-more-v8-supercars-for-us/page/3/#findComment-5892759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jangles Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 i cant say much more for you to realise, its not about the contract with hawthorn....youre just determined to bust out figures and stats about irrelevant applications of the states budget. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/368701-no-more-v8-supercars-for-us/page/3/#findComment-5892875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sav man Posted July 12, 2011 Author Share Posted July 12, 2011 Horay things are looking up http://www.examiner.com.au/news/local/news/general/deal-close-on-v8-supercar-round-state-makes-v8s-offer/2223031.aspx?storypage=0 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/368701-no-more-v8-supercars-for-us/page/3/#findComment-5909575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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