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Hi Guys

Im thinking of getting a grounding kit for my NA R34 GT coupe.

R34's are getting old now so there is no doubt of some earthing wire wear and tear.

Just wondering on some locations that could be grounded.

All answers will be helpfull

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chassis to the igniter earth,

chassis to the injectors earth

chassis to earth below fuel regulator

really anything that has a earth going to it on the engine, just double up on it. :thumbsup:

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Before wasting your money just get a multimeter and test resistance between points, its not required.

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Best way to do it is to have someone crank the car (lots of load on the wiring) with fuel pump or injectors disconnected. Anything over 0.1 volts under these conditions can cause trouble later on.

And if you're going to, don't buy a "grounding kit" off Ebay. good 8 or 4ga wire, which is available in all kinds of pretty colours, a few eye terminals, solder and heat-shrink, and you can make up some nice looking items for less money and that are the proper length...

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Jaycar also sell ready-made ground straps which will be a LOT less fiddling around than 4G/8G, and cheaper by the time you add up connectors etc.

http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=WE3102&keywords=we31&form=KEYWORD

WE-3102: 40 Amp 250mm length with 36 x 26 strands @ 0.15 (Dia.)mm

WE-3104: 100 Amp 250mm length with 48 x 20 strands @ 0.15 (Dia.)mm

I'd be surprised if you couldn't get similar from an auto store.

Side note, solder is NOT the best way of making these connections. Solder's a poor conductor, and better reserved for building circuit boards. If you're going to go the 4G/8G route, crimp your connections. You can solder afterwards (NOT before!!) if you want but crimping provides a much stronger join mechanically, and lower resistance electrically.

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Jaycar also sell ready-made ground straps which will be a LOT less fiddling around than 4G/8G, and cheaper by the time you add up connectors etc.

http://www.jaycar.co...31&form=KEYWORD

WE-3102: 40 Amp 250mm length with 36 x 26 strands @ 0.15 (Dia.)mm

WE-3104: 100 Amp 250mm length with 48 x 20 strands @ 0.15 (Dia.)mm

I'd be surprised if you couldn't get similar from an auto store.

Side note, solder is NOT the best way of making these connections. Solder's a poor conductor, and better reserved for building circuit boards. If you're going to go the 4G/8G route, crimp your connections. You can solder afterwards (NOT before!!) if you want but crimping provides a much stronger join mechanically, and lower resistance electrically.

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My bad. Definitely crimp the connections, then solder and heat-shrink. The solder is more there to help prevent the connection getting coroded, coming loose, or burning out...

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There was an article in a street commonwhores mag I read a while ago comparing the before and after of a "Hot Earth" kit, ironic name...

Gave about 12kw peak gain and moved the power left, there was literally about 20-25 8ga cables running to all the primary bits, such as coils, fuel pump, ECU earth, MAF sensor etc...

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My bad. Definitely crimp the connections, then solder and heat-shrink. The solder is more there to help prevent the connection getting coroded, coming loose, or burning out...

Well.. a proper crimp is gas-tight and mechanically sound. If you have properly crimped the terminal there's no reason to solder at all, but if you've done 90% of the job then a bit of added strength from the solder might help.

Soldering certainly doesn't hurt and I've soldered after crimping myself because the gold connectors Jaycar sells for 4G/8G cable need all the mechanical help they can get. They're very soft. Better off using some stronger ones from Supercheap/Whitworths to begin with but I was lazy :P

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Well.. a proper crimp is gas-tight and mechanically sound. If you have properly crimped the terminal there's no reason to solder at all, but if you've done 90% of the job then a bit of added strength from the solder might help.

Soldering certainly doesn't hurt and I've soldered after crimping myself because the gold connectors Jaycar sells for 4G/8G cable need all the mechanical help they can get. They're very soft. Better off using some stronger ones from Supercheap/Whitworths to begin with but I was lazy :P

Personally, on my own car where time/cost isn't a big issue, I cut off the plastic covers, crimp the terminals (usually narva items, seem to do the job), solder the joint, quick spray with battery-terminal protector, then heat-shrink. Not only do you get a good looking connection (compared to the tacky plastic covers), but it's also rock-solid, can't corrode, come loose, or burn out....

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