Wtf..dealer Fault Destroys Engine

[warps]

you seem to be missing the point warps he paid good money to have everything done by the book and it wasnt..

Are you saying they charged him to replace the belt, then didn't replace it? Have you got proof?

[.:: GimpS-R34 ::.]

If he moved to america he could sue whoever he likes for any reason at all..

[tridentt150v]

as far as he knew it was serviced by the book until it went bang..

Then it should have a tick against it in the service book/log to acknowledge that it was changed.

BTW did this happen before or after The Great War?

Also Consumer Affairs [or whatever it is called in each state] told me that if you fix the problem then your case for compensation is pretty much gone!!!

You have to give the business a chance to make good.........and then you present your case to CA if they won't.....and then they may [depending on if they are found libel or not] be compelled to fix it or pay you out for getting it done. Then you can get it fixed. I know I just went through all this with Ford Australia - in the end I needed my 4wd, so fixed it myself [and paid for the parts] - Dept of Fair Trade warned me that if I did then Ford had no case to answer to. But considering - and this is the game big companies who don't give a shit play - that I'd already been driving a faulty vehicle for 18 months and couldn't put up with it any longer, I fixed it.

PS vehicle would stop and you couldn't restart unless towed or bump started then it would work fine for days/weeks until it happened again. No problem on a hill, not so good nose to kerb parked

[ARTZ]

cheers for the info Trident..as usual cosumer is faced with a lose money fighting it or lose money fixing it situation

so wadayarekn. ACA ot TT.. Maybe Negus even

[dan_the_man]

im sure at the time the only thought on his mind was fix it so I can get back to work..he doesnt have time to waste argueing the legalities of it there and then..

Which brings up another point why could he not also sue for lost time at work?

I'm unsure why you're arguing with people on the forums. It is just everyones guess as to what would happen.

If your mate is serious about making a claim then he should speak to his solicitor to see where he stands.

[ARTZ]

im not intentionally argueing with anyone, im just throwing it out there to see if anyone thought it was worthwhile even going to a solicitor..but general consensus seems to be dont bother. Personally I would have chased them up over it the minute it happened, why he hasnt Im not sure, guess is he couldnt be bothered with the headaches..

He has definately been stooged and people on here seem to think somehow it is his fault or he deserves it and has no leg to stand on..these people probably the same people that sell dodgey goods and services for a living.. I can understand when someone like Trident sympathizes with the situation but to merely throw it out the window, well you would have to be a heartless crook..

[mad082]

cheers for the info Trident..as usual cosumer is faced with a lose money fighting it or lose money fixing it situation

so wadayarekn. ACA ot TT.. Maybe Negus even

i reckon that even they wouldn't touch this story. statute of limitations probably ran out after 1 year from the incident happening. after that time there is zero that can be done about it even if mazda was in the wrong.

there is no point furthering this discussion for this reason. there are plenty of other points that could be made, but if the statute of limitations has run out then you and your mate need to build a bridge and get over it. there isn't a court in the country that would hear this case, let alone find in your mates favour. bit hard to dig up solid evidence that shows that the timing belt was the cause of the engine failure and not a side effect a few years after it has been thrown in the bin.

[ARTZ]

yeah I see now it is probably too late to do anything about it now..why the silly old bastard didnt do anything about it at the time im unsure..

Anyway my gripe is not with anyone here just these dodgey ass crooks that charge top dollar but fail to provide a decnt service.. Especially when said dealership received the "Dealership of the year Award" no doubt for their success at ripping people off..

Anyway as the old saying goes..

Pay cheap get cheap

Pay good get good

pay through the ass and you get raped....

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[GTR-N1]

I bought a '06 (SG9) Forester XT 1.5 yrs ago with all services done by T** K*** Auto.

It had 101,000kms on it.

Services are done every 12,500km.

When I took it to my mechanics at 112,500kms, they rang me and said it still had the original air filter in it. It was so clogged up, you couldn't see the flutes in the filter panel.

The panel wouldn't budge from its holder and they had to hammer it out.

There are some places out there that are very very good. There are some places too that are absolutely atrocious.

[warps]

There are some places out there that are very very good. There are some places too that are absolutely atrocious.

Absolutely, and anyone engaging in that kind of dodge should be kicked in the upper lip with a steel tipped toe cap (or insert appropriate punishment)

This is very different to "my engine died 3 years ago because 5 years ago the dealer may or may not have changed the timing belt, and may or may not have charged me to change the timing belt. The car was well and truly out of warranty. I want to sue them. How do I go about this??"

[GTR-N1]

Absolutely, and anyone engaging in that kind of dodge should be ( insert appropriate punishment) = Named 'n Shamed (eg. "Eatability" ratings of restaurants)

Hate it when someone's pride and joy can get so f*(ked up due to greed and/or negligence.

[ARTZ]

Absolutely, and anyone engaging in that kind of dodge should be kicked in the upper lip with a steel tipped toe cap (or insert appropriate punishment)

This is very different to "my engine died 3 years ago because 5 years ago the dealer may or may not have changed the timing belt, and may or may not have charged me to change the timing belt. The car was well and truly out of warranty. I want to sue them. How do I go about this??"

ok ok no need to rub salt in the wound..

if you were a good lawyer you would make it happen

[warps]

Yeh just messin' with ya, Arthur.

Sad but true about the lawyer comment. It's not about who's right or wrong, but more about who's more lawyered up.

[ARTZ]

but just for the record this has happenend all within the last 3 years.

There was no "may or may not have" the belt was not changed..if this was via his instruction or not I am not as yet 100% sure but I will find out..also if the belt had been changed with a mazda genuine belt the car would have been good for at least another 120k ..but it didnt make it past 90k.

And wether or not the car was out of warranty is irrelevant as its the dealers negligence that caused the issue not the car itself..

As for proving it was the timing belt, well that is very difficult but what else would cause your valves to hit your pistons..?

Basically nothing you said has any merit, the only thing that does really is what Massrc said about the statue of limitations which pretty much destroys any case he has..

[warps]

What happened to

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And this

Basically nothing you said has any merit

made me lol. Keep it up, son.

[mad082]

yeah I see now it is probably too late to do anything about it now..why the silly old bastard didnt do anything about it at the time im unsure..

Anyway my gripe is not with anyone here just these dodgey ass crooks that charge top dollar but fail to provide a decnt service.. Especially when said dealership received the "Dealership of the year Award" no doubt for their success at ripping people off..

Anyway as the old saying goes..

Pay cheap get cheap

Pay good get good

pay through the ass and you get raped....

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i'm yet to hear of a dealership workshop that isn't full of douchebags who have pretty much no respect for the cars they work on. they get paid no matter what, unlike a smaller workshop who will probably have a lower hourly rate but will do the job right the first time because it costs them money out of their pocket if you take it back because the job wasn't done properly.

[syfon]

the timing chain on my mates mum's mini cooper s snapped about 4months after the car's warranty ended. The motor only had 41,000km on it. She complained to the dealer and they replaced the whole engine with a brand new one free of charge....

[Adriano]

My guess is that at 120,000k service, the dealer said "Mate its up far a belt, thatll set you back $600 on top of the service" To which mate replied "Can it wait till the next service??" Its unlikely the dealer would forget that the 120 is a major service, as its another reason to make more money.

[boiracer]

or as others have said it was "apparently" done, but all they did is wiped a rag or WD thru the engine bay, topped up the old oil and sent him on his way every so called service.

My dad and his new POS Navara has been told all sorts of crap about it from the dealers, just trying to get out of fixing stuff under warranty...let alone out of.

point i make is, if you don't do it yourself............

and a Factory service doesn't mean shit (except that all important stamp in theservice book for your thousands of wasted dollars that you could have save and repair any issues yourself)

[ARTZ]

exactly and it doesn't make a difference when you go to trade it in with 150,000kms on it they offer you the same crap money if its factory serviced or not..

talking to another guy today with 500,000+ on his lpg v6 rodeo, never had a problem except for an alternator, even mechanic couldn't believe it was true, asked who serviced it and he does it himself..I kind of see a pattern here, those of us that self service and have some basic mechanical knowledge or have a a very good friend or relative for a mechanic oddly never have a problem with their cars.. those that dont are always complaining that something wrong .

new cars are very well built and rarely ever need anything other than plugs/oil/filters if treated right..there is no need for a mechanic to actually have to tune anything

I will have to double check with him as to if it was his decision not to get the timing belt done but he didnt say anything about them asking him..