Hks 2835 Pro S

[Chi100188]

Hey guys just wondering if I can machine a HKS3037 Pro S cartridge into the housings? i went to per4manz in perth he recommended me the CHRA 700177-12, i was thinking of buying the cartridge from ATP from the states but they only offer these ones :

http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=tp&Product_Code=CHRA-GT3076R&Category_Code=

http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=tp&Product_Code=CHRA-GT3076R-WG-C10&Category_Code=

http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=tp&Product_Code=CHRA-GT3076R-WG&Category_Code=

any help would be great guys because im not sure which one to buy

Cheers

Chi

[wolverine]

Do you have a HKS 2835ProS housings now?

If so, why not just buy the correct cartridge for your turbo. They are available locally.

I have the CHRA as 700177-3 (56mm 84 trim turbine variant)

[Chi100188]

yeah i've got the HKS pro S housing but i wanna extract more power so is it possible to put a 3037 Pro S core into it? or even a 3076?

[wolverine]

Time to sell and upgrade IMO.

The existing housings would need to be machined to fit. Even if there is enough meat in the housings I think it would be a highly compromised setup.

By the time you sell your very in demand turbo kit you will be well on the way to paying for a new fitted GT3076.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

sell it and buy a new 3076 or second hand 3037 kit.... it's by far the most sought after turbo for an unopened RB25... will sell in 2.3 seconds

[GTScotT]

PM me if you want to sell that housing.

Was that 2.3 seconds worth?

[discopotato03]

No you can't really machine out those HKS GT"2835" Pro S housings .

Interestingly HKS used the same turbine housing castings in 0.68 and 0.87 A/Rs but they offset the housing in the Lathe to do the GT3037 version because the full sized GT30 turbine has a larger exducer diameter and would have broken into the waste gates outlet flow path .

With port shrouded compressor housings the radial slot is machined to suit the height of the lower or splitter blades leading edges and most wheels are different .

The thing people used to do to get a bit more out of a GT2835 Pro S was to use the larger 0.87 A/R turbine housing if they didn't already have one .

A .

[Chi100188]

oh right, so pretty much disco i can't use any of the above CHRA's at all? cause my turbo builder said he could machine out the housings a little bit to suit the 700177-12 GT3076r CHRA but I had a read of your other thread and found that that is not the real GT3076r or something...

[Chi100188]

i guess the best option is to stick to the 2835 Pro S cartridge ....ahh thought i could stick a 3037 Pro S in there

[discopotato03]

I may have missed it but what sort of power are you making and what are you looking for ?

I would have thought a 2835 Pro S would've made quite reasonable squirt though they may lose you the bit right down low .

I think you're at point where changing turbos could be expensive and maybe other upgrades like say better cams could help a bit .

A .

[Chi100188]

hmmm well my cartridge is blown thats why im looking at upgrades disco...but i don't wnana buy a brand new turbo, so i was thinking get a 3076 cartridge and machine it in there cause it'd be the cheaper option machining will cost me from 100-200 and if i can get a 3076 cartridge from ATP for 870 its not too bad although i have been looking at KAMAK turbo's but thats too much messing around... the 2835 Pro S is good but im chasing more power lol somewhere in the 400+ ish hp, so disco in your opinion is the 700177-12 cartridge good for 400?

Cheers

Chi

[wolverine]

You should be able to get the -3 cartridge I mentioned above locally for around $1100 if you ask nicely. My new cartridge was installed for that price by MTQ in Sydney after a friendly arm wrestle.

ATP cartridge will need to add shipping which should still come under $1000 but still worth considering buying locally.

[Chi100188]

yeah i found the -3 cartridge from ATP but yeah mtq wanted like 1300 for the cartridge...mmm think ill buy from ATP

[wolverine]

pm sent

make sure you double and triple check the CHRA number I gave you is the correct one just in case.

[discopotato03]

Some mobs can rebuild Garrett GT BB cartridges and the economics revolve around whats worn or bent/broken .

The things that ae expensive are new turbines if the blades are amaged or the piston ring has eaten into its groove . When there is piston ring damage to the back of the turbine wheels hub you often find it in the same part of the cartridges bearing housing and its not economic to change both .

Buying locally usually costs a bit more but if the new item has issues getting exchanges can be more complicatede from OS .

New std cartridge is the way to go I think , if your heart is set on 300 Kw sell the 2835 and buy a GT3076R .

A .

[Chi100188]

Cheers fellas for the reply but disco can u tell me more about the 700177-12 cartridge before I make my choice?

Cheers

Chi

[Chi100188]

can anyone confirm that these two things are the same :

700177-3

700177-5003

Cheers

Chi

[discopotato03]

Cartridge number 700177-12 is a GT30 turbine based one but with the 7/7 bladed compressor wheel in 56 trim .

It is not part of the HKS range of Garrett GT BB turbos/cartridges which includes the better version of that -12 cartridge from the 56 trim GT3037/GT3076r which is 700177-7 .

To confirm the GT2835 56T HKS turbos use cartridge number 700177-3 according to my lists/notes .

It should be in that list I posted some years back of most of the GT30 BB turbo family .

Cheers A .

[Chi100188]

oh right mmm cause according to your notes disco....

the 700177-3 is the 700382-0003 , 700177-0003 , 03) 2835 56T , 56.6mm 84T with .64 a/r

and from the ATP website the

700177-5003 CHRA - Garrett GT3071R-WG with 84 trim 56.5mm turbine wheel and 71mm 56 trim compressor wheel is same cartrdige?

I just need confirmation before i place the order

[wolverine]

Page 27 of this catalogue by Garrett

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/images/catalog/catalog_common/Garrett2007Catalog.pdf

Looking for my invoice from MTQ but its hiding somewhere.