New Performance Cars

[Cowboy1600]

lol a Camaro SS is $34K give or take, conversions are $30K not $10K, but I understand your point...

I'm trying to do something about the high prices...

www.ironblockimports.com

Wow! They are some seriously good prices. Under $100k for a Shelby GT500!

Great work

I've often considered doing something similar, cause local prices were plain criminal. Good on you for actually getting stuck in.

[Sarumatix]

I must add, I recently drove the new series 2 SV6 from a hire company. Really great car to drive with good steering feel and suspension. A little on the heavy side but no worse than an Aston right . Given that I own a VY as a daily, the VE is a massive step in the right direction. Not to mention I drove from Brisbane to Hervey Bay and back in a spirited fashion on 3/4s of a tank of E10.

I'd happily own one of these and take it to the track.

[-FIGJAM-]

remember reading a write up about the FWD, RWD and AWD arguement. End conclusion was that all styles have their pros and cons, comes down to the driver and what they prefer.

I dont know much about cars, only that I like this and I like that for example I drove the Golf R32 and the Civic Type R (last year I think, may have been the year before) and I preferred the feel of the Civic. That's just me though.

End of the day, the economy is changing, people's views are changing and car companies are changing. Someone hit the nail on the head with us running out of fossil fuels and the ozone layer, hence car companies are trying to become greener. Even that Hyandi or however you spell it link for the Genesis said that they only expect to sell a couple thousand to the "younger crowd" i think they said. Aren't the car companies a business out to make money?

Cant please everyone.

Also believe Toyota is releasing a RWD sports car with the boxer engine.

[Darmanin10]

lol a Camaro SS is $34K give or take, conversions are $30K not $10K, but I understand your point...

I'm trying to do something about the high prices...

www.ironblockimports.com

its so annoying that you can buy an 317KW SS CAMARO FOR $31K and you can also buy a 270KW SS Commodore for around $50K (estimate??)

so for those $20 000 you are getting 2 extra doors, 50 less KW, almost 200KG more weight. etc,etc...

point is you get more for your money also a sports coupe????

having said that, if GM decided to sell the camaro here, it would not cost 30K.....unfortunatley.

[-FIGJAM-]

^^ its all relative mate. Things are cheap to us over there, but at the same time there wages are much lower then ours (as a general rule of thumb)

Hate to know what they think when they come over here and see the price of things...

[mad082]

^^ its all relative mate. Things are cheap to us over there, but at the same time there wages are much lower then ours (as a general rule of thumb)

Hate to know what they think when they come over here and see the price of things...

this is spot on. minimum hour wage over here is something like $15 an hour. in the states it is roughly half that at around $7.50 to $8 an hour. so companies in australia could sell stuff at the same price as the states if everyone decided to halve they pay. at the end of the day though everyone would come out with the same amount of money (relatively speaking).

[Darmanin10]

^^ its all relative mate. Things are cheap to us over there, but at the same time there wages are much lower then ours (as a general rule of thumb)

Hate to know what they think when they come over here and see the price of things...

yeh i understand that, the point of my post is, how awsome would it be if we could get a camaro for $30 000 dollars.

[Iron Chef]

It's economies of scale - if Holden were selling a million cars a year here instead of 100,000 then the costs of development would be spread out and cars would be cheaper.

In the meantime, for a country of 20-odd million, we have one car manufacturer that produces large RWD sedans with a choice of a stomping straight six turbo or a supercharged V8, and another that bolts arguably the most easily tuned V8 in the world into a large RWD sedan and sells them at, in relative terms, bargain basement prices. The only equivalent car in GM's lineup now is the Caddy CTS-V which is BMW money over there.

Get on any Ford Mustang site in the US and see how badly they'd love to have the Falcon in V8 form. Seriously, they ache for a decent RWD sports sedan over there.

Edited July 15, 2011 by Iron Chef

[hamiltonau]

hmmmm then methinks there could be a lucrative sideline for ironchef smuggling Falcons to the US in exchange for Mustangs..there must be some super clever way of doing it...maybe as 'objects de art' ..as some kind of friendly cultural exchange?

sigh, if only.

I love my muscle cars..have about 400 of them unfo all are 1:64 scale..

[Exodus01]

I love my muscle cars..

True that - i would love to learn well anything about cars and restore an old muscle car.

[-FIGJAM-]

no one mention the Rally Art?? How are these doing, ive seen a fair few on the roads and they are fairly cheap I believe.

[Joe Nash]

now i have read probably a 50% of this thread and started to get the gist of it, i believe someone asked about performance cars not being built like the skyline and supra's etc etc.

and then we have people arguing over FWD RWD and AWD cars, whats better, whats worse.

i have had FWD cars for pretty much my entire driving life, untill about 6 weeks ago when i bought my first skyline.

my personal opinion is simple, if you want a car that will go well in the twisties with out sliding out and killing yourself, a AWD or FWD would be the go, however, if you want to go around the twisties and drift and have fun like that, then it's simple, get a RWD vehicle.

all three types have there good point and there bad points, i haven't owned a RWD for long enough to know much differents, but i have driven RWD cars plenty of times, and honestly, i liked my FWD car to the works RWD commodore, i felt i could go harder in my car then the works car (boss has done worse then i could ever do), and simply felt safer.

but this is my opinion, and i have no facts to prove anything, simply my experience.

oh and someone said about doing FWD cars up as they are cheap, i honestly crunched the numbers one night when i was doing up my pulsar, it was going to cost me $10,000 to do up, and that was doing the labour myself, i found it cheaper to simply go out and buy a car that already had some power and a good base line to start from, yes i know $10,000 is a lot and i could have done it for less, but as some people might agree, if you are going to do something up, do it right the first time to save on headaches later on, and i wasn't the only one who agreed with me on my choice, a mate who did up his FWD pulsar also said that what i said was true, it was cheaper to get the skyline then continue the build.

these are my opinions and like i said, nothing to back them up

[-FIGJAM-]

Just seen an advertisement for the new WRX, anyone looked at them in more depth?

[Kolossus]

Hasn't been mentioned but I think the 03-09 Liberty's look awesome, are AWD and come in several options and would be something interesting to start from as opposed to a Impreza (WRX or the whatever you decide to go for), I don't know how they go after market but I'm sure you could find some bolt ons and I have been in my mates 2.5 Manual Liberty and it goes like a startled gazelle. Just something out of the ordinary that I thought I would throw out there, also the Legacy Blitzen models are pretty dam cool in my books.