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Aftermarket Plenum Not Epa Friendly..

skeg_man

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skeg_man

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Hey guys,

Just been reading up through the epa guide lines and it states that no modified or aftermarket plenums are permited... So this means anyone with the greddy style plenum will have issues?

Just wanted to confirm with everyone. Anyone been done for it?

Cheers in advance guys. :-)

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alr33x Grand Master

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i think the answer to your question is yes and yes.

although i thought it came under the 1 intake modification rule, but based on what your saying thats not the case. if it says illegal then its illegal.

R31Nismoid Grand Master

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If that's what is in the guidelines, then you've answered your own question.

As to whether anyone has been picked up, that simply comes down to luck.

Some people probably have, some probably haven't... That's not to say it wont happen tomorrow.

paulr33 Grand Master

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and it would depend how it looks too

if its all grey dark and oem looking and looks standard you might be ok

if its got HKS and greddy plastered all over it with shiny parts and nice blue coloured joiners etc

then its likely to get more noticed

Thelen Rising Star

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Get it engineered then its all legal. For the intake plenum you'd just have to make sure the tune is correct, as GTRR34 says because the AF is different.

Do all your intake mods at once before doing the engineers though, as it will be expensive.

joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo Grand Master

joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo

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not to mention that with all aftermarket ecu's being illegal, you therefore can't "make sure the tune is correct"

(even if the tune is better for the environment than stock) go nanny state!

Sunkist Grand Master

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not to mention that with all aftermarket ecu's being illegal, you therefore can't "make sure the tune is correct"

(even if the tune is better for the environment than stock) go nanny state!

my case.

f**kn stupid i reckon.

but im told that a stand alone ECU which is locked after a tune can be engineered.

its only PBacks that cant be eng'd.

or was I being trolled

Drift SX Collaborator

Drift SX

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I had a Greddy copy on my 180, the boys at EPA still passed the car, guess they like me

Aftermarket ECU's can be legal providing they pass a special emissions test (which i was told by Lou at EPA is about 3g and if you fail there goes your 3g) and it must be locked.

boostn0199 Grand Master

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Well technically you can pass with remap since you cannot tell from visually checking but the problem is passing the a/f tesf they do, so even if you did get an ecu engineereed but it failed the emissions test it still doesn' t help.

W0rp3D Grand Master

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I had a Greddy copy on my 180, the boys at EPA still passed the car, guess they like me

Aftermarket ECU's can be legal providing they pass a special emissions test (which i was told by Lou at EPA is about 3g and if you fail there goes your 3g) and it must be locked.

And how do you lock it? a factory ecu is considered locked but is it really locked?

Well technically you can pass with remap since you cannot tell from visually checking but the problem is passing the a/f tesf they do, so even if you did get an ecu engineereed but it failed the emissions test it still doesn' t help.

Unless im mistaken you first need to pass the emissions test before you can get it engineered.........

R31Nismoid Grand Master

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my case.

f**kn stupid i reckon.

but im told that a stand alone ECU which is locked after a tune can be engineered.

its only PBacks that cant be eng'd.

or was I being trolled

Once you pass the ADR emissions testing aka: "3k if you fail, tough. You have to pay it again".

Victoria, fail state.

ARTZ Grand Master

ARTZ

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you know what is really stupid..

Adding an aftermarket plenum and nothing else would have zero affect on emmissions and would actually make the car slower yet some how its deemed bad enough to consider it defectable..

f**kin victoria

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