tricstar Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 don't know where all this V8's rule the land and there's no replacement for displacement shit is coming from here?? cheap V8's running 10's?? My Bro's got a new malloo, so $75k, spent another $5k+ on OTR induction, tune, better exhaust etc etc, only ended up with 400rwhp from 6.2L down the drags best he could manage with or without launch-control was 12.9@180km's, in comparison I had an R33 GTR standard apart from highflow turbos and PFC =400rwhp ran 12flat@188km's turbo upgrade and a tune should take care of most V8's Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Get the best of everything, get a V8 - put a turbo on it, put it in a Skyline. Sorted! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTScotT Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 If thats that R32, I was hoping you would post that up lol. Have been meaning to show a few people. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Sure is, stock internal VH45 with a big single Holset turbo on gentle boost - 360kw odd before the dyno complained about torque. If I remember rightly did quite skatey low 11s and awesome burnouts. On ET Streets I am sure it could have cut a 10. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTZ Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 How ill informed you are.... Who ever tells you that they break seals blah blah blah has obviously cut corners or never owned one. I have had numerous rotor's and only those that werent set up properly had issues. Mate has a car that gets its ass flogged every time it gets taken out and it has been around for years!!!! Makes 450rwhp though 3 mufflers so its no slouch either. Its so quiet it would just about pass an EPA inspection and it still makes the power so even the old stories of them needing to be noisy is all shit, you just have to build them properly. They would honestly cost no more to maintain than any modified Skyline If i can get a 13BT supplied and rebuilt for $6k i am doing pretty well and your all shopping at the wrong workshops. This includes an imported 13BT which has been stripped and inspected - if the engine is crap it gets replaced till good parts are found, PTS seals, bridgeporting, the rest of the seals consist of a full Mazda seal kit. I obviously have the rest of the anciliaries off the import motor to use so no need to buy much more than a new clutch, turbo and manifold should i wish to upgrade them. As i said in a previous post, i know a guy who has built a 9 second Mazda for no more than $25k. Thats cost of the car, decent paint, nosecone change from an 808 front, full ANDRA tech cage, 9 inch, top loader blah blah blah ok well the ones I have known had issues but they were older non injected ones..anyway not denying the rotary as a performer, but I dont think they are any better than a well setup 8. And aside from traffic light races what else is it good for, a V8 can be use for a variety of purposes in just about anycar of any weight..a rotary is fast in a lightweight car and is good for nothing else.. Also a brand new V8 crate engine is about 6k as well and is easily replalced or fixed at any mechanic anywhere, your rotary f**ks up anywhere other than a major city and your stuck shipping parts everywhere.. The rx7 is awesome but that is all...a V8 makes any car awesome and im sorry if this offends you but anyone that denies the LS chev engine its glory is more of a knuckledragger than those they claim to be superior to.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ido09s Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 (edited) At a cost of?.... Quite a lot i should imagine for the entire build from its inception to an engineered registered car. I cant see the video but given the OP is asking about a street car, with power on a budget, i can only assume this turboed VH41 R32 is registered and engineered and cost <$5k to build? Its different but given the cost versus gain i dare say a modified RB26 would have given similar performance. ok well the ones I have known had issues but they were older non injected ones..anyway not denying the rotary as a performer, but I dont think they are any better than a well setup 8. And aside from traffic light races what else is it good for, a V8 can be use for a variety of purposes in just about anycar of any weight..a rotary is fast in a lightweight car and is good for nothing else.. Also a brand new V8 crate engine is about 6k as well and is easily replalced or fixed at any mechanic anywhere, your rotary f**ks up anywhere other than a major city and your stuck shipping parts everywhere.. The rx7 is awesome but that is all...a V8 makes any car awesome Apart from high klms, there should again be no issues with an older rotor. I have seen them with 120,000klms on them still going well. Sure it wasnt perfect, but we are talking about a tiny engine pushing about an FD for all those klms. Any small engine will be strugling after some time on the road Your clearly on the wrong forum lol If you want to tow something i wouldnt be buying anything LS powered anyway.... a big ass 4WD is about all i would tow anything decent with these days. Edited July 26, 2011 by ido09s Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTZ Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 we gave up caring what the OP wanted along time ago dude Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touge Kyousou Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 theres too much torque and outright nasty grunt , i really think you'd need a gt30 to hose one off convincingly I lent my mate my line not long ago and he was happily driving home when a ve SS did the rev and floor it off the lights, then revved again at the next set of lights. Mate said my 1st and 2nd was lineball.. but sligtly sideways and wheelspinning haha, then 3rd just walked away. Garrett GT28 equipped. Reads 250rwkw atm, but on a low reading dyno. If my tires were warm, then 1st should walk away even (running s compounds). I've got a vid of my 3rd gear and compared it to quite a few other ones on youtube such as c63amg, e92 v8 bmw m3 etc etc. Only reasonable car i found faster (and only slightly) was a porsche turbo. By reasonable, i am discounting the exotic supercars like koenigegg, veyrons etc etc. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaldo Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Apart from high klms, there should again be no issues with an older rotor. I have seen them with 120,000klms on them still going well. Sure it wasnt perfect, but we are talking about a tiny engine pushing about an FD for all those klms. Any small engine will be strugling after some time on the road The fact that you consider 120,000 to be high kms says it all lol. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolls Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 this is an epic troll thread now. everyone knows rotaries chew apex seals driving to the shops, sif you'd talk up a rotary, do anything and you gotta replace apex seals. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
045HOW Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 this is an epic troll thread now. everyone knows rotaries chew apex seals driving to the shops, sif you'd talk up a rotary, do anything and you gotta replace apex seals. pretty much. i heard if you arent blowing apex seals every 2 seconds, you have to watch out for weak connecting rods when trying to achieve high HP. rotors just sound like a baddddd idea imo. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GODZILLA-GTR Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I lent my mate my line not long ago and he was happily driving home when a ve SS did the rev and floor it off the lights, then revved again at the next set of lights. Mate said my 1st and 2nd was lineball.. but sligtly sideways and wheelspinning haha, then 3rd just walked away. Garrett GT28 equipped. Reads 250rwkw atm, but on a low reading dyno. If my tires were warm, then 1st should walk away even (running s compounds). I've got a vid of my 3rd gear and compared it to quite a few other ones on youtube such as c63amg, e92 v8 bmw m3 etc etc. Only reasonable car i found faster (and only slightly) was a porsche turbo. By reasonable, i am discounting the exotic supercars like koenigegg, veyrons etc etc. soooo, u compare ur in car footage to in car footage of other cars in third gear on youtube and come to the conclusion that ur car is faster than theirs that way? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolls Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 soooo, u compare ur in car footage to in car footage of other cars in third gear on youtube and come to the conclusion that ur car is faster than theirs that way? You've never done this? most reliable method imo Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GODZILLA-GTR Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 You've never done this? most reliable method imo sounds foolproof! im going to have to get onto that Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTZ Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Your clearly on the wrong forum lol If you want to tow something i wouldnt be buying anything LS powered anyway.... a big ass 4WD is about all i would tow anything decent with these days. For a start i never said anything about towing.. And if your beloved rotisserie is so good show me one skyline with a rotary in it cause I have already seen heaps with V8s..I have seen plenty of mazdas with SRs RBs JzS and v8s as well.. OP listen to this guy and stick a rotor in your skyline mate, its the only way you will beat a commo Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ido09s Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 (edited) The fact that you consider 120,000 to be high kms says it all lol. Its a lot longer than some RB oil pumps last lol Like i said, they are a small engine and you cant expect something that performs as they do to go for ever. For a start i never said anything about towing.. And if your beloved rotisserie is so good show me one skyline with a rotary in it cause I have already seen heaps with V8s..I have seen plenty of mazdas with SRs RBs JzS and v8s as well.. OP listen to this guy and stick a rotor in your skyline mate, its the only way you will beat a commo Please enlighten me to the variety of purposes you were referring to then.... and to quote yourself.... we gave up caring what the OP wanted along time ago dude And good to see the maturity of SAU shine through yet again. Its quite comparible with NS.com at times i see..... Edited July 26, 2011 by ido09s Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiR_RB Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 buy a GTR end thread Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolls Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 put a rotor in a commodore Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTZ Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 mate your the one trying to tell OP that to beat a commodore he needs to buy a rotary. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTZ Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 put a rotor in a commodore thats it exactly Rolls, you can put a LS1 in a mazda but you wouldnt put a rotor in commodore Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/371622-power-on-a-budget/page/5/#findComment-5933715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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