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AngryRB Grand Master

AngryRB

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that was written like a monkey that went to troll school.

and if you are talking only of markIV supras, then they never had a 1J anyway they had a 2J

also i heard that 26 is better technology just not stronger parts from factory.

speak on it people.

I dont know anything bout supra's , just noting that two of the top tuners in japan seemed to favour the GTR motor over the supra motor, but they used the supra's body and gearbox.

I dont know about troll school either, but i know theres a lot of monkey's on the gold coast!!!:nyaanyaa:

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045HOW Mentor

045HOW

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I dont know anything bout supra's , just noting that two of the top tuners in japan seemed to favour the GTR motor over the supra motor, but they used the supra's body and gearbox.

I dont know about troll school either, but i know theres a lot of monkey's on the gold coast!!!:nyaanyaa:

top secret does all these crazy conversions just to be different at tokyo auto salon... lol

and its true. thats why they made the v12 TT supra.

GTScotT Grand Master

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to be honest ive never been in a 1J powered car so i may change my mind .. lol.

I have a video and theres a Jap Guy called SMOKEY NAGATA , hes a top tuner in japan, dont know if you guys have seen his DVD, he does burn outs and over 300km/hr runs on the street, his mate also drive a GTR, hes also a top tuner.

anyhow, in his video his uses a supra but puts the GTR engine in with the supra 6speed , he does this to two supra's cause the body is better aerodynmics apparently and also has a V8GTR which hammers too..

If the 1J was so much better how come he doesnt use it?? must be a reason or maybe hes just a nissan fan

That car was originally a 2JZ which later got swapped to the RB26 when the car the 26 was originally from hung its gloves up. I believe the 26 was the better developed motor at that point and they had specific goals for it.

Later that same car went on to run a 3SGTE (2L 4 pot from an MR2 or Celica) which also muscled the car over 300 and was seen doing so on one of the earlier hioctane DVD's.

Moral of the story is at 1000hp its not necessarily which motor you started with but how much development you have invested into it..........................................

045HOW Mentor

045HOW

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What does "better technology" mean?

not pushrods?

wasnt about LS vs RB

talking about JZ vs RB

i read it but i cant back it up as far as maybe the fact the intake manifold and turbo setups are better.

someone should be able to speak on what is better between the two.

GTScotT Grand Master

GTScotT

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wasnt about LS vs RB

talking about JZ vs RB

i read it but i cant back it up as far as maybe the fact the intake manifold and turbo setups are better.

someone should be able to speak on what is better between the two.

Yeah nah.. The JZ is a sturdier motor and matches as far as tech goes... If not surpasses.

First thing that won me in the JZ decision was the oil pump. A stout keyway backed up by a spline adaptor press fit onto the crank and the actual oil pump being driven by the spline.

As far as tech goes its a 2 piece runner to plenum with an injector bolt on section (like a spacer off the head). 2 cam sensors, map sensor, big throttle with TPS attached and a 1 piece harness that does not wire into the car. The motor can be unplugged and lifted out, then run on the floor if u want (old v8 style).

No VCT but I dont exactly call that leading edge technology and the turbo setup on the JZ is actually pretty trick... They are stout for an OEM item.

Nee-san Grand Master

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Nobody is saying they are crap lol, they just aren't the absolute best motor ever created like people seem to believe.

No, toyota worshipping phaiggots like many here hold that special place for the JZ series, god there is some cock pulling that goes on over them !

2JZ NO SHIT WITH NAAWWSSS... etc

People that wouldn't know if a dog bit them etc.

AngryRB Grand Master

AngryRB

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No, toyota worshipping phaiggots like many here hold that special place for the JZ series, god there is some cock pulling that goes on over them !

2JZ NO SHIT WITH NAAWWSSS... etc

People that wouldn't know if a dog bit them etc.

haha, thats some funny shit!! you must be a strong nissan fan lol... :thumbsup:

045HOW Mentor

045HOW

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haha, thats some funny shit!! you must be a strong nissan fan lol... :thumbsup:

ya think?

i am RB all the way. i just admit that 2JZ is a very strong motor straight out of the factory.

i also admit it looks like a big boring docile cow and sounds like the straight 6 version of a hyundai with a cannon..

AngryRB Grand Master

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ya think?

i am RB all the way. i just admit that 2JZ is a very strong motor straight out of the factory.

i also admit it looks like a big boring docile cow and sounds like the straight 6 version of a hyundai with a cannon..

yeah well certainly on paper it sounds better than an rb, i cant speak for it really though, ive never driven one, i just like nissan since the first vl turbo that i drove, was like a jet engine, smooth and silky , but nasty.. from then on ive been sold on rb's..:whistling: for me i just feel that the rb is a very well designed bullet proof motor, and i have confidence in it..

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Hanaldo

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what is this faggotry??

1JZ sounds nice.

but 2JZ come on?

twin cam RB>2JZ for note

Amazing :D but to be fair, it is an RB28. On gate that is always going to sound incredible.

Fkn lol at the end of the vid :P

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