R32 Gtst Rear Subframe Bushes

[mii11x]

Hey guys,

The rear subframe bushes are leaking in my r32 gtst, so to replace them I was thinking of getting the Whiteline rear subframe mount kit (part number W92446) through JUSTJAP. Does Superpro or anyone else manufacture the part I need, if so what are the part numbers??

Also, Id imagine the front also has similar sort of bushes which prob need replacing while Im at it.......correct me if I am wrong.........so what would i need for the front?

I have searched the manufacturer websites but no one has many listings for skylines as you would all know. I have searched the forums to get some more clarity on this subject, but no one really lists part numbers.

One last thing, those pineapple bushes(Subframe align and lock kit), are they worthwhile to fit at the same time?? (Whiteline part KCA349)

Thanks

Mick

[ido09s]

Dont bother with those whiteline mounts or drift pineapples/subframe lock and align kits

Your better off using the JJR bush kit i have linked below. They will fix everything at once. No need to drop the whole ass end out of the car entirely to replace the bushes, all you do is lower the cradle and slip the alloy bushes in. It doesnt really matter if your current bushes are rooted as they are designed to slip into the gooves of the standard bushes and lock the cradle solid. They work very well

http://www.justjap.c...&cat=398&page=1

The front cross member doesnt have bushes as it bolts up directly to the chassis rails

Edited July 21, 2011 by ido09s

[mii11x]

Dont bother with those whiteline mounts or drift pineapples/subframe lock and align kits

Your better off using the JJR bush kit i have linked below. They will fix everything at once. No need to drop the whole ass end out of the car entirely to replace the bushes, all you do is lower the cradle and slip the alloy bushes in. It doesnt really matter if your current bushes are rooted as they are designed to slip into the gooves of the standard bushes and lock the cradle solid. They work very well

http://www.justjap.c...&cat=398&page=1

The front cross member doesnt have bushes as it bolts up directly to the chassis rails

Seems like a much cheaper option, I thought that you would only have to lower the cradle to do the bushes.......by the way, the hicas has been completely removed and im running s13 gear, would this affect the part i would purchase (pretty sure the r32 and s13 are the same anyways)??? Wait no the parts are listed the same anyway on the link from JustJap.

I think ive seen posts about the jjr bush kit on here.

Do I really need to bite the bullet and replace the inner cradle bushes if they are leaking while i fit the jjr kit???

Edited July 21, 2011 by mii11x

[bubba]

You need to press the old cradle bushes if you want to replace them.

[-Jimmy-]

Replacing the bushes is a big job, you have to drop the whole ass end/subframe out and either burn them out or get them pressed out and then the new ones pressed in.

I got a set of those subframe rings/collars (not JJR but basically identical) and all you have to do is lower the subframe about an inch or two, very easy to DIY and great improvement for the money.

[Bl4cK32]

Its a big job, but well worth it. Not everyone likes having their subframe solidly mounted to the car increasing the NVH somewhat.

[bubba]

I came across some upgraded replacement cradle bushes the other day, couple of different brands and I think JJR sell one of them...

Here they are, would be worth some research I guess..

http://www.justjap.com/store/product.php?productid=20067&cat=398&page=1

[Bl4cK32]

I came across some upgraded replacement cradle bushes the other day

The look nice n stock. Ive emailed JJ before and gotten no replies from a question I had. Wonder if they are silicon filled like std ones, or just solid cast?

[bubba]

I have a feeling they are solid rubber but they aren't even listed on the HardRace website

[ido09s]

Its a big job, but well worth it. Not everyone likes having their subframe solidly mounted to the car increasing the NVH somewhat.

Sorry mate but i hate acronyms.... I assume you are referring to noise?

The alloy JJR cradle bushes dont increase noise as they dont actually mount to the metal of the car. There is some rubber that shields them from this which is also why they are so good.

I have fitted them to so many cars, some of which had the nastiest looking bushes, and there was no noise apparent after they were fitted.

Many years ago we removed the stock rubber and replaced them with a full billet alloy bush. It was the worst thing we could have done as that has cereated lots of noise through the car These alloy cradle bushes werent around back then though so we didnt have much choice. At least we know what the noise is so we dont worry to much about it

[-Jimmy-]

I didn't notice a noise difference, and for comfort they were no issue either.

If I did have the time and money I would be replacing the bushes with new ones but you can't go wrong with a quick and easy DIY.

[mii11x]

Just a short follow up on my original post....well i bought the subframe lock kit (the alloy one) and installed it all yesterday. Very easy job took bout an hour in all and i aint no mechanic. I cant say that i noticed a massive difference in noise from driving. Back end felt kinda firmer, but maybe i was imagining an expectation. Did feel firmer though to me.

Yeah removing the subframe looks like a prick of a job even on a hoist.......you would only replace the bushes for the rear subframe if you needed to do other bushes and/or replace upper and lower control arms for adjustables id say

Anyways thanks for all your help to those who had input

Mick

[ido09s]

Alll good mate.

They are a much better option than replacing the whole bush.

[Bl4cK32]

Alll good mate.

They are an easier option than replacing the whole bush.

fixed your quote. Its a bandaid solution for taking out the subframe at best.

[-Jimmy-]

Taking the subframe isn't the hard part, it's actually getting the old bushes out and the new bushes in, transporting the subframe etc.

[Bl4cK32]

Hole saw, drill and hacksaw, and a weekend planned. If your spending some cash, then a cheap press will come in handy and let you save money later down the track when doing other parts. Its only needed to do 2 of the 4 bushes, the other two can be persuaded in with a hammer and drift. Ive seen people do it by themselves over a weekend with little trouble.

[bubba]

Yeah removing the subframe looks like a prick of a job even on a hoist.......you would only replace the bushes for the rear subframe if you needed to do other bushes and/or replace upper and lower control arms for adjustables id say

Upper arms are piss easy to replace and you don't need to drop the subframe.

I'm thinking of giving the HardRace items a bash in the manual cradle I have for the Stagea.