Running On E85

[Mick_o]

I forgot to mention that 67% duty cycle was on 98 too by the way....

your turbo is prob slightly bigger than mine too manuel so im hoping my injectors will be sweet for 270kw

Do you know what your injector cycle is hitting with 300kw?

[vxsr33]

6 year bump.

Is a power fc (r33 gtst) capable of running e85 and flex tune?
I know you need a e85 pump, fuel lines and compatible injectors but what else is needed?

[Lithium]

8 hours ago, vxsr33 said:

6 year bump.

Is a power fc (r33 gtst) capable of running e85 and flex tune?
I know you need a e85 pump, fuel lines and compatible injectors but what else is needed?

PowerFC can tune for E85 (it's just fuel), but it will not do flex fuel.

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

But a stock RB20DET with Nistune and the feature pack can control VCT, run full flex, launch control and basic engine protection strategies such as RPM limit vs. coolant temp and max TP Load vs RPM fuel cuts - which a PowerFC cannot do at all.

Sell PowerFC, get Nistune, left over money from PowerFC proceeds to buy a flex sensor.

[niZmO_Man]

11 minutes ago, Dose Pipe Sutututu said:

But a stock RB20DET with Nistune and the feature pack can control VCT, run full flex, launch control and basic engine protection strategies such as RPM limit vs. coolant temp and max TP Load vs RPM fuel cuts - which a PowerFC cannot do at all.

Sell PowerFC, get Nistune, left over money from PowerFC proceeds to buy a flex sensor.

Nistune doesn't come with APEXi sticker does it?

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

2 hours ago, niZmO_Man said:

Nistune doesn't come with APEXi sticker does it?

or a stupid useless hand controller

[vxsr33]

I didn't know nistune had all those features.
Im tempted to run only e85 as i have a fair amount of e85 stations within close proximity and i have a second car.
Is an fuel flex tune a lot more expensive than a normal tune?
I was thinking of getting an adaptronic if i go flex fuel would this be a good option?
I don't plan any of this soon I'm just trying to gain some knowledge

[r32-25t]

With shell now supplying e85 in the v8 stupid cars is there a chance we may start seeing it at shell servos and take away the monopoly united currently has 

[Piggaz]

Oh? Didn't realise Shell were the fuel supplier! Here's hoping!

[Sick_R31]

Considering there is nothing on the shell Australia website about it and the only place on earth they are selling it is Illinois USA Shell e85 i'm going to say no.

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

Adaptronic is a great ECU if you spend heaps of time scaling everything properly, setting up all the tables and working on the timing map to be as near OEM as possible before you start tuning. This is something most tuners don't do because I've seen a good handful of tunes by so called big tuners and they're horrid. 

I'm happy to provide anyone with a very good base map to work with, has all the sensors scaled properly, timing map (off boost) as close to oem as possible and all the cranking tables defined nicely so it starts in any weather. 

However if you're going to send it to a shop, get a Haltech because their base maps are very good meaning your favourite tuner won't need to do much work to make the car drive well.

[iruvyouskyrine]

There was a big thing in Facebook about it a couple of months ago. Shell rep saying that there was basically zero chance of them ever selling E85 at servos in Australia despite them being the supplier for V8 supercars

[sneakey pete]

are they actually the supplier for the Supercars even?
I thought it was just shell vpower branding on the penske cars even though they're actually using united E85 in them?

[niZmO_Man]

Last time I paid attention, I thought United were supplying the E85.

[djr81]

I had a look on the weekend.  The fuel drums are very definitely Shell and are marked as Shell Racing Fuel E85.  The cynic in me says they are sourced from the same place as last year and branded differently.

[Borci88]

11 hours ago, Dose Pipe Sutututu said:

Adaptronic is a great ECU if you spend heaps of time scaling everything properly, setting up all the tables and working on the timing map to be as near OEM as possible before you start tuning. This is something most tuners don't do because I've seen a good handful of tunes by so called big tuners and they're horrid. 

I'm happy to provide anyone with a very good base map to work with, has all the sensors scaled properly, timing map (off boost) as close to oem as possible and all the cranking tables defined nicely so it starts in any weather. 

However if you're going to send it to a shop, get a Haltech because their base maps are very good meaning your favourite tuner won't need to do much work to make the car drive well.

Would this work with the Modular ECU? 

[burn4005]

14 hours ago, Dose Pipe Sutututu said:

Adaptronic is a great ECU if you spend heaps of time scaling everything properly, setting up all the tables and working on the timing map to be as near OEM as possible before you start tuning. This is something most tuners don't do because I've seen a good handful of tunes by so called big tuners and they're horrid. 

I'm happy to provide anyone with a very good base map to work with, has all the sensors scaled properly, timing map (off boost) as close to oem as possible and all the cranking tables defined nicely so it starts in any weather. 

 

Hi, I've got an E1280s that Ive written custom code for and would be very interested to see your base map as a starting point for my tuning.

Thanks

Alex

[zoomzoom]

Big thumbs up to Johnny's base map for the adaptronic. Ive been disappointed by tunes from "reputable" places.

Adaptronic's base map can only be described as poo. Retarded poo. At least it shouldn't blow the engine unlike some tunes Ive seen from "tuners".

To Johnny's map, I have added a few more degrees of timing in the cruise area and slightly more on the transition to boost around 93kpa.

However from experience the fuel maps are not comparable, you'll have to do the hard yards with your own afr sensor to set the VE values.

Edited May 8, 2017 by zoomzoom

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

Happy to send it to anyone and also my final map on my previous motor that spat out ring lands after a years worth of abuse at 370kW+ on the track (not tune related, motor had over 300k kms, and an average of 1.7bar of boost through it - note completely stock unopened, bar head studs).

I believe you can import the map into the modular ECU, at the very least the the tables you need. 

[Borci88]

11 hours ago, Dose Pipe Sutututu said:

Happy to send it to anyone and also my final map on my previous motor that spat out ring lands after a years worth of abuse at 370kW+ on the track (not tune related, motor had over 300k kms, and an average of 1.7bar of boost through it - note completely stock unopened, bar head studs).

I believe you can import the map into the modular ECU, at the very least the the tables you need. 

I'd love to have a copy Johnny if you'd be so kind. I am ordering an Adaptronic Modular soon and just assumed that the Skyline plug n play Modular came with a decent base map, seems not!!