What Cat For Emissions Test

[luvpsi]

Yeah but we talking about emissions here

[KiwiRS4T]

I bought the 5in Venom cat and had it welded in (no flanges) as I am not planning to remove it. I have a 3in system looking for about 300 -330kw from my RB30. We need a cat for low volume certification these days but the certifiers do not do comprehensive exhaust gas analysis - I suspect these 100 cell metal cats would not pass - would be interested if anyone has been through a test with one.

[Pal]

recon a minimum of 300 cells for emmissions and get it as close to the turbo as possible, can change it to a 100 cell if you want when you get your certificate for the engine

[pistol-pete]

whats the point in spending all that money and running a high flow cat if it doesnt meet emissions? seriously, just bolt in a standard cat when you have an inspection then spend $50 and get a decat.

[luvpsi]

i dont have a stock system and its on a vl so the whole exhaust is custom made

[Harey]

recon a minimum of 300 cells for emmissions and get it as close to the turbo as possible, can change it to a 100 cell if you want when you get your certificate for the engine

+1

whats the point in spending all that money and running a high flow cat if it doesnt meet emissions? seriously, just bolt in a standard cat when you have an inspection then spend $50 and get a decat.

The point is to avoid a $10k fine if you get caught without a cat at all. Compared to a $200 outlay of a 100cell hiflow cat that will provide almost no restriction. You cannot get a fine for having a cat that probably wont meet emissions standards (100 cell cat).

i dont have a stock system and its on a vl so the whole exhaust is custom made

It all depends on the impact of you failing. If it costs nothing and you can go again later sure try the hiflow cat but if it costs you or you failing causes you to loose rego then you should definitely fit a 300 cell cat and then change afterwards.

[Bl4cK32]

The point is to avoid a $10k fine if you get caught without a cat at all. Compared to a $200 outlay of a 100cell hiflow cat that will provide almost no restriction. You cannot get a fine for having a cat that probably wont meet emissions standards (100 cell cat).

Show me proof that anyone here or elsewhere in AU has been fined the full amount of 10K for not running a cat converter.

Pete was stating that its better to run a std cat than a high flow - which probably wont pass.

[Harey]

Show me proof that anyone here or elsewhere in AU has been fined the full amount of 10K for not running a cat converter.

Pete was stating that its better to run a std cat than a high flow - which probably wont pass.

Why run the risk of a fine for no cat?? To save $200 and 2-3kw?

Yes I also have said multiple times in this thread to run a standard cat to pass the emissions test. I was suggesting changing to a hiflow 100 cell cat after the emissions test.

[Bl4cK32]

Why run the risk of a fine for no cat?? To save $200 and 2-3kw?

Im not disagreeing with anything you have said, other than ask for an example of when someone was actually fined 10K for failure to not run a cat converter.

[SargeRX8]

I know someone copped a 1700 fine for no cat. About 3 years ago, he had a decat on a civic. LOL.

[pistol-pete]

Pete was stating that its better to run a std cat than a high flow - which probably wont pass.

exactly, its just a waste of money. the only way youre gonna get fined for not having a cat is if youre stupid enough to go through an inspection without one

[SargeRX8]

exactly, its just a waste of money. the only way youre gonna get fined for not having a cat is if youre stupid enough to go through an inspection without one

You may not be aware but in Sydney they often have defect stations. Little outposts setup by police where police will pull import cars and other cars on the street into these stations, put them on a hoist and defect everything not standard.

[Bl4cK32]

You may not be aware but in Sydney they often have defect stations. Little outposts setup by police where police will pull import cars and other cars on the street into these stations, put them on a hoist and defect everything not standard.

im not sure what your point is? Again, pete's reply was that a highflow is a waste of money, as it would fail the epa test and if you went through an inspection without a cat, then expect a fine.

Here in SA, you only need the one defect to be sent for a full inspection (can be a few things like noise etc) and then fined just for being defected

[SargeRX8]

im not sure what your point is? Again, pete's reply was that a highflow is a waste of money, as it would fail the epa test and if you went through an inspection without a cat, then expect a fine.

Here in SA, you only need the one defect to be sent for a full inspection (can be a few things like noise etc) and then fined just for being defected

I don't think you understood what I meant. These are EPA setup stations. Police bring in drivers, EPA pulls out the book for your car and gets you down for everything not standard. You will cop a fine for running a cat not meeting standards, not a fine for running NO CAT at all. That is the difference. Its a grey area. They have hoists to get cars up. Ive seen one setup on james ruse drive near rose hill. Not a pretty site.

[Mayuri Krab]

You may not be aware but in Sydney they often have defect stations. Little outposts setup by police where police will pull import cars and other cars on the street into these stations, put them on a hoist and defect everything not standard.

I don't think we have them in WA, the only Police setup stations I've seen are your typical RBT buses & drug test.

Also from watching some old news, you guys also have some kind of special Police task force who's solo purpose is to pull cars (mostly imports) over & defect them, I think they are called operation Tapan or something?

Again we don't seem to have those in WA (thank god!)

[StevenCJR31]

I don't think we have them in WA, the only Police setup stations I've seen are your typical RBT buses & drug test.

Also from watching some old news, you guys also have some kind of special Police task force who's solo purpose is to pull cars (mostly imports) over & defect them, I think they are called operation Tapan or something?

Again we don't seem to have those in WA (thank god!)

dont count on it being that way for much longer. . .usually what happens in the east makes it way here to W.A (aka Wait Awhile) eventually

[tweety bird]

it's all good arguing about this on a internet forum but know one here can give you a straight answer (or at least the one you're looking for) so email venom an see what they say.

good luck to you sir

[SargeRX8]

I emailed him, he didn't give me a response but said he responded to Joel. What did he say?

These defect stations, haven't been in action lately. Not that I have seen. The last one I saw was about 3 years ago.

[luvpsi]

george told me my best bet would be a factory BF xr6turbo cat for the emissions test. then change it over down the track.however after talkignt o him a bit more any 200cell plus cat should do the job as long as its ceramic. so im thinking going the catco ceramic cat and then putting my decat back in after the test.

[Harey]

im not sure what your point is? Again, pete's reply was that a highflow is a waste of money, as it would fail the epa test and if you went through an inspection without a cat, then expect a fine.

I understand you now, drive around with a decat pipe, if you get pulled over and cop a defect then put a factory cat back in when you go in for an inspection.

What about this scenario:

Car accident where the car is undriveable and the insurance people come and do an inspection of the car. They could argue that your car is not roadworthy and therefore not covered by insurance.