Help With Pad Choice

[eightsixboy]

I am trying to sort out my brakes for some up coming track days, but cant decide whats pads to get.

I currently have ebc redstuff and they armt really suited to track work at all, and after boiling my fluid at winton im pretty sure the pads are cooked to.

Im upgrading to gtr rotors but keeping the standard 4 pot 32 calipers, I was going to go 33 calipers but it seems like a waste of time as they arnt really that much bigger.

So what pads do I get? The car will be 50/50 track and street so im not fussed about noise or dust.

That was one thing about the redstuffs that annoyed me, how can u have a low dust pad thats meant to be any good? Id rather a high dust high temp pad thatll actually stop the car on the track.

I have searched but there is so much misinfomation out there, 1 guy loves yellowstuffs yet another had them fall apart on the track.

I just want a pad thatll not destroy my rotors and be able to handle sprints.

Cheers.

[Mr. Untouchable]

my car has been 50/50 track & street for awhile now, QFM A1RM is the only way to roll!

Aus made, great value $120ish for front and same for rear. bit dusty, little noisy but they are great, they outlast my fluid everytime. work from 0 up till 780ish.

dont eat rotors too bad.

can't recomend them highly enough.

my local track is small (200kays tops on the back straight), but still, 350kw's and 1400 kg's plus they always hang in there

EBC's make good paper weights

[eightsixboy]

Thanks, from what I have read the QFM's seem to be really good.

I have been really disaspointed with the redstuff's, crap when cold and fade on the track (prob to do with fluid aswell).

[Josh_TypeX]

You say you are upgrading to GTR rotors but keeping the standard 32 GTST calipers; are you getting adapters for the calipers to fit the larger discs? The 33 calipers may not be larger, but the attachment points suit the larger 296mm rotors, whereas the 32 calipers only suit the 280mm disc.

On topic: I am also a fan of the A1RM's for the standard brakes on a street/track car.

[The Bogan]

A1RM,s, they do get a bit noisy when on the street but after a bit of work are good to go and quite again for a couple of hundred K,s on the street.

With DBA 4000 rotors they have been faultless, albeit I only do springs.

[eightsixboy]

You say you are upgrading to GTR rotors but keeping the standard 32 GTST calipers; are you getting adapters for the calipers to fit the larger discs? The 33 calipers may not be larger, but the attachment points suit the larger 296mm rotors, whereas the 32 calipers only suit the 280mm disc.

On topic: I am also a fan of the A1RM's for the standard brakes on a street/track car.

Yes I have got brackets from Unique auto sports

Thought it was easier to use brackets and standard calipers rather then upgrading calipers, although its prob the same $$$, plus Im going 324mm rotors so not sure if they will work with 33 gtst calipers anyways.

I'm just hoping itll be enough so solve the issues i had last time at winton, I actually didnt realise that the redstuff's arnt actually a track pad, which IMO makes them a pointless pad as why would you bother with them for street when there are cheaper pads out there that atleast will brake when cold, I hate how the redstuff's are crap when cold and still crap when the get hot

I'm going to be using race fluid so with the bigger rotors to should be a good combo, I hope.

In regards DBA 4000's I'm honestly to scared to buy them haha, I've heard to many stories of them cracking, shopping around for some rda golds.

Edited August 9, 2011 by eightsixboy

[R32 TT]

My choice of pads isn't real cheap but they are very good and look after your rotors too. Try pagid rs14 or rs19. They're excellent.

Having said that I have for sale some used Project Mu hatted rotors to r32 GTR. Lots of guys that were cracking DBA's have not had probs with these. Mine haven't done lots of work either. Also have GTR calipers and brand new Endless pc35's still in their box.

[gslrallysport]

Hi Paul,

Just replied to your PM!

FYI for everyone else:

GTR 324mm rotors in the Gold Slotted and Dimpled are $509 for the pair, but I read you're doing track work with the car, so I wouldn't recommend the dimpled rotors. Either just stick to normal RDA Slotted $375 for the pair, or go to something like a 4000 Series DBA Slotted which are a higher carbon content rotor which will both last longer, and perform better at elevated temperatures. All the issues they had with hairline cracks have been resolved with their new slot pattern. DBA Slotted to suit are $198 each, and are also good for track work as they have the thermal marking paint to monitor your temperatures.

A1RM to suit GTST calipers are $119 per set front or rear.

The fluid that we use and recommend is the TRW GP600 Dot 4 Racing Brake Fluid, which is $65 for a 1L bottle, and rated to 312 degrees dry.

Shipping to Vic would be $22.

Any other questions just let me know!

Regards,

Greg

[bubba]

For street/track on my 32 I run 324mm DBA4000 slotted rotors and Ferodo Racing DS2500 pads.

[eightsixboy]

Any issues with the rotors bubba?

I'm pretty much set on getting the QFM pads as I've heard nothing but good things about them.

My only concern with the DBA 4000's is cracking, if there gonna crack on the track thats a bit of a concern.

Have DBA sorted this out 100% with there new design?

[KiwiRS4T]

You should be able to get Motul RBF600 from any bike shop for about half that price.

[ssxRicho]

justjap have two piece rotors, attacked branded (ksport/g4/d2). I'm not sure if that price is for 2 rotors, or just the single. As the single price is the same as dba5000, but it says 'kit' so I would think the 2 of them.

A1RM for the occasional track day, maybe 1 a month. You may get 2x track days and street km out of a front set of A1RM. Anymore track action than that, look at PMu HC+ or run a street pad then swap em out for PMu clubspec. Also look at EBC blue stuff, 4 of us running ksport brakes with these pads on the front. They work on the street, not very well from cold and I think they would be pretty harsh on the rotors. But I get at least 5 track days out of a set of blues on the front and driving to and from the track.

What track days are you looking at going to?

[eightsixboy]

Yea I saw the attacked brand rotors, I searched and there is no info at all on them so who knows where there made or the quality.

I'm basically setting up the car for sprints, so mostly going to Winton. If I can do between 5-10 track days a year plus deca's I'll be happy.

[Mr. Untouchable]

if your going to be doing 100% track work, QFM do good comp compounds too.