Looking for a JOB in IT ANY HELP???

[Dragon18]

hay guys i have been looking for a job in IT for a couple of weeks bloody pissing me off

in terms of IT if any of you care, looking for a job in network engineering, system admin.

so yea, just looking and its soo hard to find somthing. i have been working for my self for 2 years running my own consulting business and its been going well just that fact that business is allways up and down and i would prefer somthing more stable.

My qualifications skills

Adv diploma Network Engin

Cisco CCNA 1 -4

Cisco CCNP Module 1

Data Cabling

routers, switches,

software hardware

win 9x to xp

windows servers

etc etc etc

hehe

but if any one has any advice or could help or anything would be great

know quite afew of you are in the IT industry

[predator]

Well each time i have been out of work in the IT industry its been from 3-6 months and have had quite a few years experience. So anybody who says IT is "full" of jobs and you just walk from one job to another is speaking rubbish.

Often its a difficult nut to crack and sent off maybe 100 applications, but once you've got a decent position its all good. I remember I know we got some 300 applications for some of our minor web positions at my old work back then so know the other side of the fence a little too.

So dunno, just keep trying -- with those qualifications all should be good.

[NS2500]

Sometimes you have to get a foot in the door, which might mean settling for something a little less than what you want.

From what I can tell there are no jobs in IT support at the moment - 3 years experience / MCSE / CCNA - $30K - are they kidding?

[paulr33]

learn linux / unix / *nix

its the key to the IT industry. No jobs and lots of people with heaps of qualifications who want jobs = not helpful for those who need jobs. learn shit like radius, dns, databases. dont learn them in full detail, but at least learn what they are and how to set them up or configure them

[x2shy]

There might be some jobs here.

PM me.

[adznight]

Don't do it. Take up a trade! I wish I did! You can have my job!

[blind_elk]

I'm becoming "surplus to requirements" tonight, so I'm also in the market.

Skills in Oracle, and I know enough Unix to get everyone into trouble!

[S15200sxbroda]

in IT its not what u know its who u know. I realised this after almost 2 years in IT.

[WLD747]

IT is stuffed it took me 2 years before entry into a low level position. Its buggereds. But yeh IT professionals get bugger all pay. I reckon other industrys have better pay.

[Dragon18]

i tell ya what is a good industry lol djing i dj on weekends and iam very happy with my pay only problem is i dont see it as a full time / stable job and thats what iam after just somthign abit stable

[JMP 82]

cant go past real estate... yeh, so its long hours but at the end of the day, you basically make your own wage depending on how hard you work and how much time u r willing to put in...

my 2 francs

[predator]

Tradies are doing huge business. JMP: realestate is a very competitive industry, and if you don't like sales I don't think realestate is really for everybody.

Up here if you're a plasterer, floorer, or something like that you'll almost have guys knocking down your door to give you money. Same in melb, just with the growth in property and renovations being the "big thing" at the moment any associated areas are also doing big. Some are making mega mega bucks with the right areas and businesses. You might not think it, but many of the people driving around mercs and the likes are tradies.

So maybe something that combines IT with that could be the go. Wiring up network architectures in apartments and housing communitites and things has been said to be the "next big thing". Maybe that is what you could look into?

[davidl]

Well i think IT is all about getting into a specialist market, personally i have been testing vision plus for the last 2 years, and have just moved into a BA role, i get around 3 to 4 calls a week asking if i am interested in positions.

[cobo_11]

Well i think IT is all about getting into a specialist market, personally i have been testing vision plus for the last 2 years, and have just moved into a BA role, i get around 3 to 4 calls a week asking if i am interested in positions.

yeah I agree with you davidl, if you want to earn some dosh and have a stable job, you need to specialise!

But also to contradict in a way, tradies are doing F**KING WELL! I personally know 3, 1 in building, 1 in deisal mechanics, and 1 in painting......$$$$$$

My brother knows a bunch of plumbers, and they are absolutely raking in the dosh! and I mean raking it in!

[slow_r31]

my 35c,

the problem is that alot of "qualified" people have very general and often basic/poor skills, whom ordinary employees often are more skilled than. alot of "IT professionals" (i hate that term btw) also lack the professionaism and people skills nessesary to succeed in any professional position. please note this is NOT an attack on you, or that, just a general trend.

looking at your post i would agree with a few others in prehaps enhancing your own skills in unix/linux, mac, prehaps database or other systems, anything in addition to microsoft OS's which every man and his dog thinks he can use effectivly. Larger companies that run multi-system environments might be hesitant to employee someone without knowledge of these systems.

there are plenty of jobs in the "IT" Industry for people with the right skills, attitude, and the patience to tailor their resume/application for a particular position. sending out 100 resumes for "IT professional" jobs will get you no-where, as 10000 other people are most likely doing the same.

you said you worked/work for yourself? this is what you should be pushing as opposed to the skills. that you have set up x y and z networks with x number of users, and they are running fine and stable and you still support them. It shows that you are professional, experienced and that you can apply your skills efficently. So get references from your current/previous customers. I know if i was hiring someone this is what i would look for.

[THa_HotLine]

hey dude where u study at!! Box Hill institute!! Im doin the same course with all the cisco stuff

[davidl]

I have to agree, Tradies do really well. And if anyone can show me a major company/bank thats uses Microsoft products i would be very suprised, all the major companys run mainframe applications and not Windows server which is really crap.

I contract to a major company in Australia and earn 6 figures, but it is all mainframe work. Just get your foot in the door, i started as a junior 12 months ago, now i am running a project. It is all about what you want and how hard you are willing to work at it.

[Dragon18]

the problem here guys is where do you get your unix experience there anrt alot of people teaching you unix i might have to start doing it my self

thats how i learnt most my other IT skills

[paulr33]

linux is teach yourself. part of understanding linux and using it is teaching yourself

its no where as stupid as windows, it doesnt assume random shit, it doenst freeze when you click on a foreground window that isn't expecting your click, it won't randomly take all of your system memory if you do the same i/o operation over and over. you can do so much from the command line vs what you can do in windows 2k/2003 server

however i wouldnt reommend linux as a desktop os. sure it has x windows

but its shit, im sorry but it is, if you wanna play desktops use windows

if you want a server based OS then use linux or a *unix variant

install red hat in text mode, dont install x windows / kde / gnome

or get slackware 9 and use that

[paulr33]

all you need is a pc, can be an old school one, like a pentium 100 or a celeron 300 etc as long as it has a cdrom, some ram, a hard disk you should be fine. download an iso image, burn it and boot from it. i'd probably recommend redhat cos its easy for newbies. or try slackware.

maybe the first time you do it install every option then play around, then do it again without kde / gnome / x windows and try it in command line mode / text mode.

there should be heaps of docos on the internet on how to do everything in linux, much like windows "knowledge base articles"

redhat howto installation

slackware howto installation

debian howto installation

network bootable howto installation

greddy t88 howto installation

etc. there's a howto for everything