R33 Gtr Sound System

[R31Nismoid]

Listen to them where though?

I've found that listening in-store (this is going back 10yrs now) wasnt the best way either because of the installation into the walls varies between brands and often specific brands design it so they sound better "instore" so to speak as the area you are in is much larger etc.

End of the day I ain't no audio nut

This is more to improve what is basically the worst set-up known to man. So anything i guess could be better!

Will def look @ sound deadening the doors though, 1KG here/there isn't really an issue.

[Kinks]

Listen to them where though?

I've found that listening in-store (this is going back 10yrs now) wasnt the best way either because of the installation into the walls varies between brands and often specific brands design it so they sound better "instore" so to speak as the area you are in is much larger etc.

in-store is fine, as long as you're aware of what you just said. The cavity behind wall speakers varies and may have fewer reflection problems than a door mount but especially in the same shop it will give you a good relative gauge of the sound.

Good quality speakers may sound thinner (ie less bass) in store because they're designed for a door size cavity not a wall size.

The more reputable shops (of which there aren't that many) will have a speaker wall that gives each speaker a typical door size cavity behind them.

At the end of the day the general rule is $ = quality. But I'm sure there are some shonky products that aren't worth the asking price so use your ears to find what sounds good to you.

[Kinks]

Actually, the best thing to take is a CD with female vocals on it. Any speaker can sound OK with lots of bass on instrumental stuff or doof doof, but female vocals in particular are midrange sounds, not much bass, and they have more audio information right in the crossover region between woofer and tweeter. Listen for clarity and natural sound in the voice. This will tell you that the speaker as a whole is engineered well (cone construction + crossover design) and not just a cardboard circle that flaps around and creates wooly bass.

[Rowzer]

try: www.soundmaster.com.au i have used these guys and have had no issues.

[Rowzer]

or : www.elite-electronics.com.au

[Carbon 34]

The best advice I can give is LISTEN to a whole load of speakers. It takes time, but your ears will tell you what's good and what's not. Take a single test CD with you that you are very familiar with.

I did this years ago and realised the following: Yes take a mix of what you like in the same format you would listen to it in, MP3 compressed sounds way different then a Shefffield lab gold CD. but remember the sound boards sound shite anyhow in most cases and most have lots of background noises from other departments , some have amps, some dont ?

Pioneer speakers are shit Really ? I doubt you have had a look at the new SQL range from Pioneer ? Ive had old pioneer's last longer then my car. decent for the money in most cases

Sony speakers are even worse Agree

Alpine is meh Depends on the range but decent overall / overpriced

Clarion is meh depends on the model, some are fantastic , some are blah

Boston Acoustics are really nice -> bought these ones Agree but watch the specs on Bostons, they are nortorious for testing SPL @ 1 watt at half a meter, not 1 meter but still sound nice and prices have come down since I sold them

Beware the path of audio nirvana though. I spent too much on the speakers in my car currently What brand if I can ask ? you can drop 10k in a pair of splits alone if you go higher end ? is it worth it, NO !!

like anything car related its a bottom less pit of money..haha

[sultanaz]

The best advice I can give is LISTEN to a whole load of speakers. It takes time, but your ears will tell you what's good and what's not. Take a single test CD with you that you are very familiar with.

I did this years ago and realised the following:

Pioneer speakers are shit

Sony speakers are even worse

Alpine is meh

Clarion is meh

Boston Acoustics are really nice -> bought these ones

Beware the path of audio nirvana though. I spent too much on the speakers in my car currently

Curious what alpine speaker you tested was shit ? Because TYPE R and X is def's killers.

I use to have Rockford Punchs they went heaps good. but Type R was ment to the be matching form to punch.

[Carbon 34]

Curious what alpine speaker you tested was shit ? Because TYPE R and X is def's killers.

I use to have Rockford Punchs they went heaps good. but Type R was ment to the be matching form to punch.

Rockfords are decent, I started installing those back in 89...lol , and built a few rockford demo trucks.for CEA shows in vegas like most brands, they make entry level and top of the line,

but to get back on track he wanted a system for dirt cheap and sounded decent for the cost. ????

Rockford agaist Type R ? Alpine just has a better market share and is a much larger company but both companies make good stuff . and both of the speakers you mention are "MID RANGE" from the company. not high end

rockford is part of a company who makes some of the best brands around ?

Type X splits are the same as a other notable companies with minor tweaks. type X cost a bit more then he wanted to spend..lol

[MUZT3K]

Ash i work part time in car sound at JB hifi

you can pick up a headunit with usb/aux for under $200. get some Alpine type R splits which sound awsome for about $200 mark and some JL audio c2600x for the rears for about $170ish

if you need anything hit me up and il look after ya

[R31Nismoid]

Which shop? Ill come down and break your balls and check out every Deck in detail

Deck is the most important part as it's gotta be functional and work well etc. Hence i need to "hands-on" and try it out.

[MUZT3K]

Nunawading, yer sure man come on in, just pm me when you want to come because im not always in Car sound dep. Especially this week, not this saturday but the following I am.

[Harey]

Thanks Ash this is exactly what I am looking for at the moment. I still have the standard headunit and I think I have finally cracked it also.

I have found the Pioneer headunit I want. What would be the next step down in speakers from your $200 and $170 options James? Something around the $150 and $100 range and preferably not alpine as none of the online stores have em.

[MUZT3K]

Maybe some jl audio tr-600 cxi there $163 I can easily do them for under $150, might.be around thr $110-$120 mark for rears front splits got kicker 11ds56.2 $198 I can do around the 150 mark mayb bit less..

[MUZT3K]

But in all honestley from my point of view it doesnt matter if you get $500 speakers or $50 ones, if you dont run them off the appropriate amp, your basically just going to get the same quality if you run them off any headunit

[sultanaz]

But in all honestley from my point of view it doesnt matter if you get $500 speakers or $50 ones, if you dont run them off the appropriate amp, your basically just going to get the same quality if you run them off any headunit

No u dont lol. :S wtf... U can run a good set of speakers off a headunit and tune the headunit to run no bass off the speakers. Then the good speakers will go heaps better then ur typical shit speakers. Thats what i do for my daily. I run a amp and sub and let that be the bass.. But theres no way what u just said is true. I've done heaps of installs. just need a half decent headunit that will tune ur typical bass , treble and mid etc etc. Goes hard and sounds great... I've got Rockford Punchs and Powers run off a Headunit.

yeah obviously its not gna sound AS good as a amped speaker.... but it Def still sounds heaps good without if u go the right way about it.. If u run bass through speakers and the headunit then theres no way ur gna have quality.

Edited September 24, 2011 by sultanaz

[MUZT3K]

Mmm thats jus what ive been told, but from what ive gathered..you buy yourself some 100watt speakers..all headunits only put out 50 per speaker (except sony 52) you wont be getting the full patential, yer it will sound ok..but extra couple hundred get a amp. But from ash was saying he isnt getting a sub..so like youve said, you can tune the speakers to not put out bass..that wont work with ashs situation. But yer all in all id rather get a cheap 4 ch amp

[usmair]

AMPs are a must i rekon

mount one underneath the passenger/driver seat and your set

[usmair]

got the following in my 33 GTR

- Pioner head deck... mp3/USB/SD card etc etc--- $210 i think

then waited for the big audio shops in sydney to have their big midnight sales. Told the guy that I didnt want a sub flying in the back. This guy was a clarion rep and he said if u dont want a sub then get the following:

- Soundstream splits-- RRP ~$370... got em for $200

- Soundstream 6x9s (these have 2 +/- inputs that split high and low frequecy) - RRP ~420... got em for $230

- Soundstream Lil Wonder 4 channel AMP - RRP ~$450 paid $270 i think

he threw in an amp wiring kit for free

mounted the amp next to the battery above the pump.... took a weekend but did it all myself

sounds mint... the 6x9s are awesome... no sub n still get a good amount of bass

i think an AMP is a must to get the best out of your speakers

[MUZT3K]

What I got in mine..well waiting to be fitted..

Pioneer mvh-8350bt

Jl audio c2600 splits

Jl audio c2600x rears

Jl audio xd700/5 amp

Jl audio 12cwo4 sub.. Somthing like that

Kicker 4 gauge wiring kit

Kicker rca's

Rrp $2400

[sultanaz]

yeah, u can go without a amp and it can sound good, but yeah if u want realllyy want a good full potiental of the speaker go a amp.

Edited September 27, 2011 by sultanaz