Friend Claims My R33 Is A Boat :/

[10 4]

What makes 180rwhp? My stock turbo skyline was making 193rwkw on 12psi and is a very quick car. How much does the M3 weigh? It is a fairly big car. Both my skylines produced more torque also. In that graph that V8 is making 259ft pounds of torque. My old skyline made close to 320ft pounds and the current one is pushing more than 500ft pounds. I'm sitting on about 700nm and that is out of a small 2.5L 1.3 ton car. And I don't just peak that torque

Stock R33 GTSTs make around 180rwhp. They run 7psi, smic etc.

M3 E36 Evo is 1500kg. R33 GTSTs are 1390kg, so yeah, 110kg less.

E92 M3 is 1620kg.

700nm of torque? lol. Merc C63 AMG BLACK has 630NM.

Edited September 12, 2011 by 10 4

[mad082]

Yeah. Dyno torque readouts, unless setup properly, are usually completely worthless since the figures are way out.

exactly. i've seen plenty of dyno readouts from small cars that are higher than the quoted figures for v8's and things like the xr6t. there's no way a 2.5L turbo 6 making under 200rwkw is making 30% more torque than a 4.0L turbo 6 that makes 270kw at the fly.

a rb25 making around 200kw would probably be making no more than 400nm at a guess, probably less though.

[SargeRX8]

Yeah you aren't making 700nm of torque.

I exaggerated a little, its closer to 670nm.

What good is a dyno if it can't read proper figures? No one can tell me there is going to be a massive difference from the readout to an actual engine figure. If this is the case, why is the kw or hp anything to go by?. It was on dyno with two people in the car and about 50 - 60kg of led in the boot, two straps holding it underneath and still we were losing traction on the dyno. Tao made close to 600nm on with the same turbo in his car on a hub dyno.

I'm making about 300rwkw.

Edited September 12, 2011 by SargeRX8

[Jonno34]

700nm of torque? lol. Merc C63 AMG BLACK has 630NM.

I exaggerated a little, its closer to 670nm.

I'm making about 300rwkw.

nice dyno

[Nee-san]

They are talking about the difference between torque and tractive effort.

[sydking]

Anyone car to explain why a Dynos Tourque reading would be so off? i kind of think this defeats the purpose of getting one done, RWKW messurements aside of course.

[SKiT_R31]

It’s because the dyno operator rarely dials in the gear ratio/final drive/wheel diameter etc, I've had the same argument with actual tuners before, yarning about excessive torque figures.

But if you get the RPM at which you make the peak torque figure and get the power figure at that point (using the graph) then use the equation [Torque (N.m) = 9.5488 x Power (kW) / Speed (RPM)] that will give you your actual torque figure at the wheels.

Or just use this calculator;

http://wentec.com/unipower/calculators/power_torque.asp

[sydking]

Aswome, cheers mate

[SargeRX8]

530nm according to that calculator. According to my dyno sheet my tractive force is 1340 lb or something at 132mph.

And just because that AMG has that much torque doesn't mean shit. There are a bucket loads of cars which will deal out more power than that mercedes for no where near the price they ask for that car. What is your point? My brothers rotor makes close to 900rwhp cost 30k. You can get a 2jz spend some money on it and get massive power and torque. Doesn't mean shit when you point out the amg.

If the above calculator is right then cool, my car is only down 100nm of torque and doesn't have a engine which probably weighs more than my car.

[drunkn snail]

did anyone see this thread started on the mightycarmods forum, by the camry guy. lol

[drunkn snail]

did anyone see this thread started on the mightycarmods forum, by the camry guy. lol

[045HOW]

700 lol

[krzysiu]

Lol why talk old m3. Raced a guy I know in a brand new e90 m3 (420hp) and I just crept away with 280rwkw.

[krzysiu]

Lol why talk old m3. Raced a guy I know in a brand new e90 m3 (420hp) and I just crept away with 280rwkw.

[sultanaz]

i believe they are abit of a boat, but in all honesty, change suspension and do ur part in getting it stiffer then that will be gone. then powerrrrr it

As for the camry yeah dw about what he said, u like ur car then dont worry about what people say

However, Aurions is the new model up from the avalon, and is completly different to the camry in power, looks sorta similar, dont misjudge who to run haha, cus aurions are machines

[SargeRX8]

We had the aurion as a loan car from insurance a little while ago. Very fun to drive lol.

[PaulosECR33]

we had a aurion as a loan car at work, +1 they are pretty fun drives, specially wen u dont give a gosh darn bout em

[mad082]

and the supercharged ones are even better again

[zebra]

I see Marc has this one covered.

Shotgun the next ghey NA thread

[MBS206]

and doesn't have a engine which probably weighs more than my car.

LOL... WAT?

If the engine gets heavier, the car gets heavier... Secondly, the RB engines are f**kING HEAVY!!! My engine that is more then twice the size of the RB25 is around 50KG lighter...

Bloody cast iron crap.