Shifter Position, R33 Gtr Box In A R32 Gts4 4 Door

[twinvl]

Just done the conversion from auto to manual in my R32 GTS4 using a R33 GTR box.

I measured and cut the hole for the shifter based on the R32 GTSt manual shell I have and it lines up perfectly with the centre console etc. I compared it to the rb25 box that came out of the GTSt but the shifter is ~40mm further back on the r33 box.

Looking at photos of r32 GTR boxes, the shifter appears to be in the same place as the R33 so I can't work out why it doesn't line up?

Fitting the shifter in pointing forwards works for now.

Is the shifter in an R32 GTR ~40mm further back than a r32 GTSt?? I would have thought they were the same??

Anyone had the same problem? Solutions??

[Moodles2]

Possibly related to worn engine mounts or gearbox mounts

[GTSBoy]

My only direct experience is that in a 1993 2WD R32, the auto and manual shifter holes are in different places. Put a manual into my auto car and there is a bit of a strech to get the rubber boot to bolt to the tunnel. It fits without putting enough tension onto the shifter that you'd worry about wearing out shift forks - but it's not 40mm offset. I can't see why the GTR shifter couldn't be as much as 40mm away from another R32's shifter.

[twinvl]

Engine mounts are fine, and if the whole engine was back that far it would be against the firewall!

The difference is in the box as I measured it compared to the r33 gts box I have.

GTSBoy, I didn't have a hole in the tunnel, I had to make it. I unstiched the panel out of my GTSt shell and welded into the GTS4 shell in the same place as the GTSt assuming it would line up!

So your auto 2 door GTS4 had a shifter hole in the tunnel?

I think I'm just going to modify a shifter anyway.

[GTSBoy]

GTSBoy, I didn't have a hole in the tunnel, I had to make it. I unstiched the panel out of my GTSt shell and welded into the GTS4 shell in the same place as the GTSt assuming it would line up!

So your auto 2 door GTS4 had a shifter hole in the tunnel?

Well, yeah. Except it's a GTSt. The shifter on a RWD auto box is attached to the box, like any other normal RWD transmission. There has to be a hole in the tunnel for it to come up through. In this case there was about a 20mm difference between the location of the manual and auto holes, based on where the manual shifter came up through the auto hole. I've seen the shifter come up through the centre of the hole on cars that were originally manual, but on mine it's either a little in front or a little behind the hole's centre. Can't remember, been too many years since I had the shifter boot off to remember.

[twinvl]

Ahh, you did say 2WD...

Fair enough. The GTS4 auto just has a cable to the shfter mounted on top of the tunnel, very different then.