N/a Skyline R34 Vs N/a Xr6

[Borci88]

Oh no!!

If that is your version of superior handling please don't get in the way of my jacked up 2.5 tonne Patrol. It would be sad to see you driven over.

At least you are obeying the speed laws.

Dp stupid iPhone.

[R34 0125GT]

I don't really care much what car a person has, whether it be a Corolla or a Corvette.

If he's keen to take care of it, services it, & respects his car's limitations as well as his own, he has the makings of an enthusiast.

One thing you've learned is the influence of the weight factor (speaking nothing yet about brakes and suspension).

In 5 years time, look back over this thread you've started and relay to us what else you've learned by 2016, and by then we'll all know if you are an enthusiast.

And one more thing: I'm sure your learning curve will be steeper as you join up and come to various events!

well stated, thanks mate.

[R34 0125GT]

TBH I did find this somewhat interesting. It would be better if you had some time sheets to compare.

The other thing is that commodore/falcon ratios are much taller and such even though you may be on top of him over short distances you'll probably find the falcon has a much better top speed.

thanks for being interested, yeah mate thats a good point, when we tested on half a mile, he did come up on top by about a quarter of a car length. probably because the xr6 delivers higher amounts of kw than the r34.

[R34 0125GT]

well that says a bit. the manual falcons and commodores are pretty hard to get off the line cleanly because of the torque (wheelspin easily) and the tall ratios (easy to bog it down if you don't fry the tyres). the v8 versions are even harder to get off the line cleanly. first gear on them is basically only really usable for parking.

out of curiousity, what sort of times were you and your mate running?

yeah your right there, the holdens and fords are pretty hard to get off the line. even the auto's are hard to. they tend to get more power out of the 3rd and 4th were the skyline lacks.

the times were pretty close, he was running low 15's when the r34 ran high 14's. some might laugh at this result, but don't forget we are testing lightly modified N/A's here. Pretty much raw engine power without turbo's or modifications.

[MSTRshenanigans]

I once watched a turtle and a tortoise race. I fell asleep and missed the finish.

[Silvia GTR]

I once watched two snails race but got hit in the head and went into a coma. When I awoke the race still hadnt finished and I got bored and left.

[MSTRshenanigans]

I once watched 2 different shades of paint dry... you get the point...

[boiracer]

wtf is with "bra" and "Are you positively annoyed friend?" and "come at me bro"???

is this "cool kids" chat for internets??

im sure there is many a thread about these things, but having said that. some cars are just lemons right out of the box, and others are freakishly fast. maybe your on either end of that scale. and as much as a N/A liner is a slug, as long as its manual and driven well it will def get moving well enough. not that i'd ever buy a non turbo liner myself, the money is just toooo much. but thats just me...bra?

werd?

diddly...

[mad082]

wtf is with "bra" and "Are you positively annoyed friend?" and "come at me bro"???

is this "cool kids" chat for internets??

im sure there is many a thread about these things, but having said that. some cars are just lemons right out of the box, and others are freakishly fast. maybe your on either end of that scale. and as much as a N/A liner is a slug, as long as its manual and driven well it will def get moving well enough. not that i'd ever buy a non turbo liner myself, the money is just toooo much. but thats just me...bra?

werd?

diddly...

Are you positively annoyed friend?

[boiracer]

at the fact that someone changed my post......yeah, someone needs their mod privileges removed. how can anyone believe a single word in any post if people can just come and alter them??

sure if it was obscene or plain wrong then remove it...but don't mess with peoples post for shits and giggles. doesnt say alot for the maturity of said person.

[mad082]

what was changed?

[boiracer]

what was changed?

the bit you replied on. the "positively annoyed bit" is not what i wrote

[GRK35L]

yeah your right there, the holdens and fords are pretty hard to get off the line. even the auto's are hard to. they tend to get more power out of the 3rd and 4th were the skyline lacks.

the times were pretty close, he was running low 15's when the r34 ran high 14's. some might laugh at this result, but don't forget we are testing lightly modified N/A's here. Pretty much raw engine power without turbo's or modifications.

'low 15's when the r34 ran high 14's. some might laugh at this result'

Nothing to be ashamed of , mate ran a Stagea 260rs with minor mods and only got in the low 15's , I would be happy with a NA r34 running high 14s , need to run my car though soon , I would only expect to be cracking into the high 14's

[Rolls]

They are both average, the XR6 would be a nicer car to drive imo as it has far more torque.

Comparing average to average, the answer is buy a non average car lol.

[Super Drager]

Got a timeslip for those times? Not saying i don't believe you, but i want to see a slip if possible.

[Hanaldo]

I would be comparing top speeds more than anything. Too much to compare between 1/4 mile times, but the speed trap will give you a fairly good indicator of power to weight etc. Again there's a few variables, but realistically it's a better comparison.

[mad082]

yeah trap speed will give an indication of power. if the car has a good speed but poor time then it means either the driver can't get it off the line cleanly (or the car is hard to get off the line cleanly), so things like better tyres, etc, would greatly benefit it.

[R34 0125GT]

I once watched 2 different shades of paint dry... you get the point...

i own a 33 GTR thats got plenty of tasteful mods, so yes these are slow compared to turbo's.

this was a test to look at something different than speeds with a turbo, it is measuring the actual performance of the raw natural aspirated engine that bears modifications compared to a turbo car.

if you think your funny, just take your humour somewhere else please. ....you get the point....

[R34 0125GT]

thanks mate, some actual good feedback.

the r34 hasnt been tuned yet, ive focused more on my 33 GTR, but i guarentee if the 34 has some tuning work done specifically for the quarter it would get some good N/A times.

would love to hear some results from your V35 on the quarter, i have always been curious .

'low 15's when the r34 ran high 14's. some might laugh at this result'

Nothing to be ashamed of , mate ran a Stagea 260rs with minor mods and only got in the low 15's , I would be happy with a NA r34 running high 14s , need to run my car though soon , I would only expect to be cracking into the high 14's

[045HOW]

People rate them as a shit car because people like you post up threads like this.

Why are people calling my car a boat??? I barely drive it. Just occasionally on sundays to tug a Supra in to port.

both 5 speeds. we had another run after that and the same result. to prove more we swapped cars and pretty much the same result.

it wasnt to prove historical stuff, its just r34's are proposed as having a low power rating, when the NEO engine that goes in them is more powerful than an average rb25 in 33's.

although the wieght is a factor,

By a whopping 7kw factory rating.. and your car might weigh about 20 more kg than a 33.

I don't really care much what car a person has, whether it be a Corolla or a Corvette.

If he's keen to take care of it, services it, & respects his car's limitations as well as his own, he has the makings of an enthusiast.

One thing you've learned is the influence of the weight factor (speaking nothing yet about brakes and suspension).

In 5 years time, look back over this thread you've started and relay to us what else you've learned by 2016, and by then we'll all know if you are an enthusiast.

And one more thing: I'm sure your learning curve will be steeper as you join up and come to various events!

This guy is an Enthusiast.