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Personally, I would recommend to just buy a turbo car. I haven't had any problems for the last 3 years on P's *touch wood*. BUT...I don't want to promote law breaking so maybe consider an S2000 and slap on a nice exhaust, v-tec controller and some deep dish 20's. This can be acheived within a 30K budget.

I was wondering if you had more money than sense, confirms it really.

For the first 6 months just buy a cheap 5k car.

You are going to drive everywhere, and the car will get driven into the ground. You'll end up nudging walls, barriers etc when parking and doing general misbehaviour that any young bloke would do.

Better to do that and get it outta your system first and get a reasonable care 6-12 months into driving.

Insurance is always a killer too. Getting 12 months out the way with a cheap car is a good idea :)

Personally, I would recommend to just buy a turbo car. I haven't had any problems for the last 3 years on P's *touch wood*. BUT...I don't want to promote law breaking so maybe consider an S2000 and slap on a nice exhaust, v-tec controller and some deep dish 20's. This can be acheived within a 30K budget.

or get an unknown turbo car.. things popo dont look out for. as long as its not done over the top, nobody gives a shit..

It's not just about the law breaking gentlemen, we've been over this before in many a thread on the same topic. You give insurance a pretty good reason to throw out your claim when they see that you are driving a turbocharged car illegally on your P plates - might as well piss on your policy so that the ink runs and you can't read it. Yes, you might get lucky and they will put through your claim without a second thought, but is it worth the risk? Shit happens...evidenced by the car accident you have in the first place, that results in your claim being made.

OP, spend $6k-$10k on a good looking P plate legal car, then put the other $20k in a bank account, earning $100 a month interest which will pay for most of your petrol. Ask anyone who's ever over-capitalised on their first car (or any car for that matter), if they could take it all back and have the money instead...they would. A wise man learns from his mistakes, a wiser man learns from the mistakes of others! And don't try to get the fastest shit you can on your P plates...you'll still get toasted by a $5k GTS-T. You'll be real cool doing 0-100 in 7 seconds, just like the rest of the tools who get an SV6 because it's the fastest Commodore they can drive on their P plates. You'll impress more people with something that looks good regardless of how fast it is.

well if that's the case Birds, wouldn't an R34 25GT be the way to go?

they're roughly around the 10k cost, spend a few grand on things like sound system, body kit, etc.

also, sort of off topic, but last week i saw TWO nissan silvia turbos drive past a copper in his car, and they were both on green P's.

what's going onnnnnn? haha.

just watched a video on youtube, a non turbo R33 goes from 0 to 100 in about 8 seconds, how is the older model faster then the newer one? or are they about the same?

also, money isn't an issue. i'm not a spoilt child, work hard for my dads business every holidays since year 9 and every weekend doing hard labour.

I once owned a VL, it was turbo at one stage in its life, it was my first car and I bought it myself for $2800 including reg and rwc. I spent about 6k over 2 years on it getting it up to the way I wanted it. Since it was written off by an idiot I bought an N/A R33 at the start of this year and ended up buying a S2 GTS-T to replace it just over a month ago. Would I do it again? No? Would I trade in this R33 for the VL worth $2800? Anytime of the week I would. Like I said I wouldn't do it again and I would get a cheap commodore or something all over again and thrash it and build it up the way I want it and make it mine.

I once owned a VL, it was turbo at one stage in its life, it was my first car and I bought it myself for $2800 including reg and rwc. I spent about 6k over 2 years on it getting it up to the way I wanted it. Since it was written off by an idiot I bought an N/A R33 at the start of this year and ended up buying a S2 GTS-T to replace it just over a month ago. Would I do it again? No? Would I trade in this R33 for the VL worth $2800? Anytime of the week I would. Like I said I wouldn't do it again and I would get a cheap commodore or something all over again and thrash it and build it up the way I want it and make it mine.

Might get a VZ Sv6 then, just hoon it up heaps.

Sucks very little mods can be done to it though...

Up to you, please dont do what most P Platers do and buy an auto one, put in chopped ultralows with a straight through exhaust and think its straight ballin'.

I'll admit I was stupid and I did many a burnout when I first got my Ps, never on main roads or anything but just learning it like most young boys do and now I've got the skyline I haven't done a single burnout. Not only because it's too clean to ruin but also because it's too expensive to fix compared to the VL :P

No I just have bigger balls than you buddy...

Dunno about that, I drove a VL Turbo illegally, that got written off and I came to my senses. Applied for an exemption and got it and bought a 33 GTS-T. Second year of Ps and I'm covered by insurance. You could say you have bigger balls than me but I hope you have pockets 20 times longer than me if you ever have an at fault accident.

Dunno about that, I drove a VL Turbo illegally, that got written off and I came to my senses. Applied for an exemption and got it and bought a 33 GTS-T. Second year of Ps and I'm covered by insurance. You could say you have bigger balls than me but I hope you have pockets 20 times longer than me if you ever have an at fault accident.

I have full comp insurance (and yes I am covered because I have prior experience with high powered vehicles)

I have full comp insurance (and yes I am covered because I have prior experience with high powered vehicles)

As has been discussed many times on this forum, I would like to see them come to the table and repair or pay you out. Just because you have prior experience does not mean you aren't driving it illegally. I would be HAPPY if you proved me wrong and you have some sort of vicroads exemption but if not then you're dreaming. Anyone can get insurance for any car, whether they cover you once you hit public roads is another story.

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