Rear Subframe On R32

[R.3.2.G.T.R]

been mucking around underneath the car and noticed the rear subframe has a gap on the bottom, tried looking for some pics but nothing clear to confirm

is the gap normal and the rear subframe looks ok apart from surface rust?

been thinking of using some pineapples to further stiffen things up

[GTSBoy]

Pineapples sit in that gap. Most of us are just not used to seeing them without pineapples any more!

[Risking]

Pineapples sit in that gap. Most of us are just not used to seeing them without pineapples any more!

No they don't....

Have a better look at his photo. The subframe is sitting hard up against the rail. Indicates to me that the bushes are rooted and has allowed the weight of the car to sit onto the subframe instead of being supported by the bush.

The subframe bushes do two jobs, they locate the frame and also support the weight of the chassis.

There should be an even gap top and bottom when the factory bushes are in good condition.

Bad news for you is those bushes are an arse hole to replace. We did a set last week and it was not a fun job.

[GTSBoy]

I must admit, I only looked at the first photo and it doesn't look as bad in that one, but you're probably is right about the state of the subframe bushes.

[R.3.2.G.T.R]

No they don't....

Have a better look at his photo. The subframe is sitting hard up against the rail. Indicates to me that the bushes are rooted and has allowed the weight of the car to sit onto the subframe instead of being supported by the bush.

The subframe bushes do two jobs, they locate the frame and also support the weight of the chassis.

There should be an even gap top and bottom when the factory bushes are in good condition.

Bad news for you is those bushes are an arse hole to replace. We did a set last week and it was not a fun job.

thanks for the diagnosis, that may explain why my passenger side rear wheel sits 5mm further out than the right side

if i were to buy bushes, whats a better type/option to purchase and is solid ones really that noisy?

also whats a reasonable amount to expect a workshop/suspension joint to do the work?

[zebra]

Skyline subframes are slightly offset from factory...for what reason I dont know...but they are

[R.3.2.G.T.R]

another Q, will solid pineapple (alloy slip-ons) be effective in locating the subframe to the chassis correctly?

[R.3.2.G.T.R]

Skyline subframes are slightly offset from factory...for what reason I dont know...but they are

nooo, i have read few comments in regards to this, which shows up my rear wheel uneven-ess as its pretty flush to the guards, does the subframe allow for any adjustment?

[GTSBoy]

Alloy rings just tend to make it really harsh. They do stiffen it up a lot, but it's rough and tough and takes all the give out of the mounts. I'm putting a different subframe into my car at some stage soon, and I'm using new Whiteline bushes to mount it.

[R.3.2.G.T.R]

Alloy rings just tend to make it really harsh. They do stiffen it up a lot, but it's rough and tough and takes all the give out of the mounts. I'm putting a different subframe into my car at some stage soon, and I'm using new Whiteline bushes to mount it.

in my scenario where the subframe is flat against the chassis on one of the sides, if i were to use the alloy rings despite the harshness, will it effectively correct the subframe positioning?

from what i have read, if u put say a whiteline bush kit in and then proceed to put the alloy rings on top, it renders the bushes useless, as effectively only the alloy rings are being utilised?

i would opt for the alloy rings however the proper bushes as an interim fix, and perhaps acquire a 2nd cradle to put bushes into in at my leisure

[KiwiRS4T]

You need bushes whether or not you have pineapples.

[R.3.2.G.T.R]

You need bushes whether or not you have pineapples.

I had read the pineapples use the good bushes to increase preload by squashing against them however the alloy rings can work with leaking/stuffed bushes

Right/wrong?