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In a modern day men can jerk off, but why when it feels better if a girl does it?

It's not about needing to, it's just a nice gesture of courtesy. Women can open doors themselves too, but I'll still do it because chivalry is a nice thing. As Tony said, there is a difference between being generous and being taken advantage of.

And I don't care how independant women want to get, how much they earn, they will still naturally be attracted to a man who can give them security both physically and financially. What's $40-50 worth of dinner for a date anyway? Think of it as an investment on the sex you may or may not get later.

I always aim to split the bill on the few first dinners, IF the girl has a secured full-time job.. you can always show courtesy by other means imo.

I always aim to split the bill on the few first dinners, IF the girl has a secured full-time job.. you can always show courtesy by other means imo.

Pay for it next time, trust me! On a dinner date you have a couple of hours to give the girl good reason why she should see you again...you make her pay for dinner and that's valuable brownie points you're missing out on, or if she's expecting you to pay, then you're undoing all the good conversation you had with her throughout. "He was a nice guy...but he made me pay for dinner, chivalry is dead blah blah".

And it's not all about just impressing her, you have every right to your own expectations from a girl etc., which you will judge her on...but you might as well play your best game on game day if you're sure you want to see her again.

I always aim to split the bill on the few first dinners, IF the girl has a secured full-time job.. you can always show courtesy by other means imo.

Wouldn't it make girls run away?

Unless you're capturing her by talking about your favourite country? (can't say the country without forum autocorrecting to something in the universe)

What if the girl is unemployed university student, make her pay half?

I did once get called a shrewd by a girl who lived in Winston.. split the bill with her. She was a lawyer working in a large firm in the merger & acquisitions dep. shes a big girl (maturity and income wise) to take care for her self.. Never heard from her again. Her loss :)

Nothing impresses a girl more than bringing out your calculator to work out how much she should contribute ot dinner and how much you should tip the waiting staff.

Single huh?

:laugh:

Its called being wise.

I can't see the logic behind spending enourmous amount of money on your girlfriend unless its your wife, then you're sharing incomes together.

If you want to go out and joy some time together, get her to pay for the bill every now and then. If you're having to pay over 60-75% of the time, shes using you and most likely screwing some one else behind your back.

My mrs offers to pay for pretty much everything pretty much all of the time, and she doesn't do it as an empty gesture. I still pay for most stuff (dinners/movies etc) but usually have to force her to let me pay...She's a keeper :)

I did once get called a shrewd by a girl who lived in Winston.. split the bill with her. She was a lawyer working in a large firm in the merger & acquisitions dep. shes a big girl (maturity and income wise) to take care for her self.. Never heard from her again. Her loss :)

I'm sure she's shattered.

I use to split / take turns with my girlfriend when I was studying or else we wouldn't of been able to do as much stuff as we'd like. Never had a girlfriend or been on a date whilst working full time I'd be more than happy to pay for the dinner bill.

She can always pay you back later ;)

I use to split / take turns with my girlfriend when I was studying or else we wouldn't of been able to do as much stuff as we'd like. Never had a girlfriend or been on a date whilst working full time I'd be more than happy to pay for the dinner bill.

She can always pay you back later ;)

The fact that she rarely finishes a meal when we go out for dinner, I'd feel bad if she paid considering how much I eat lol...I usually finish her meal off anyway

The fact that she rarely finishes a meal when we go out for dinner, I'd feel bad if she paid considering how much I eat lol...I usually finish her meal off anyway

Yeh that's fair enough, one thing that really does get to me is when your beginning to see someone and if they never even offer. Maybe I'm just a tight arse but that's a big loss in my books.

A long term relationship is different a lot more variables and a f**k generally isn't given.

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