Vic Wasteland Thread

[UNR33L]

I finished school in 2003, didn't start my apprenticeship til 8 years later.

I'm not saying no one should go to uni or whatever, but most of the people that use the example you used above, forget to factor in the money they weren't making for the ~4 years they were at uni, so unless they're on mega bucks when they do get out, they won't be catching up/overtaking those who worked from the get go anytime soon.

Of course money isn't everything for some people, so it's not much of an argument, but for materialistic mother f**kers like me, it's pretty much everything

This! then there's the student loans to pay back..

[UNR33L]

I don't know what the mrs will do with science degree when she's finished :\

I might get proven wrong I guess.

Edited March 17, 2015 by UNR33L

[Rekin]

I want money

[alr33x]

Of course money isn't everything for some people, so it's not much of an argument, but for materialistic mother f**kers like me, it's pretty much everything

Monica

[Rekin]

Gotta start my journey at 2pm via bus-train-bus for a 5pm flight departure to work.

What a waste of a day off.

Alex sell me a house which I'll buy with my degree money.

[alr33x]

Gotta start my journey at 2pm via bus-train-bus for a 5pm flight departure to work.

What a waste of a day off.

Alex sell me a house which I'll buy with my degree money.

Brah no problems but you gotta come west

Srs tho u considered newport / Spotswood etc probably get something there with your budget

[dezz]

I think a lot of it is the appearance of having a degree/diploma (no I don't know the difference between the 2)

Like Leigh just said what's his mrs gonna do with a degree in science... If it can't get you a job it's f**kin pointless, no matter how good it looks or sounds.

I hear a lot of people doing bachelor of arts or whatever else you can do a bachelor of...And I always have to ask 'and what career does that get you?'

Sometimes the answer is good, a lot of the time their answer just makes it sound like they went to uni because it's the right thing to do, apparently.

[Rekin]

I think a lot of it is the appearance of having a degree/diploma (no I don't know the difference between the 2)

Like Leigh just said what's his mrs gonna do with a degree in science... If it can't get you a job it's f**kin pointless, no matter how good it looks or sounds.

I hear a lot of people doing bachelor of arts or whatever else you can do a bachelor of...And I always have to ask 'and what career does that get you?'

Sometimes the answer is good, a lot of the time their answer just makes it sound like they went to uni because it's the right thing to do, apparently.

Diploma holders wished they had degrees.

/next level elitism

[Leroy Peterson]

I don't know what the mrs will do with science degree when she's finished :\

I might get proven wrong I guess.

my mrs has science degree. between 2-4 month unemployment stints she does ok. lots of 6-12month jobs is a pain in the ass.

my current problem is she is now sick of current job and wants to go do X but doesnt think she can wait a year waiting for a decent job to come up.

my biggest fear is like a dude i used to work with: wife was switched-on scientist. get married, be happy etc. has 3 kids, woman becomes a different person (apparently), now wont go back to work. and scientists can use the "ive been out of the industry for too long, i cant just go back to work etc. etc."

i know a few electricians looking for work. industry has been drying up for a while. most arent domestic or commercial though.

[alr33x]

Bachelor of Arts is the bomb man like basically puts you straight on the fry station at McDonald's

But seriously mate sister did like aerospace engineering but like theirs zero jobs in Aus for that

[Rekin]

Brah no problems but you gotta come west

Srs tho u considered newport / Spotswood etc probably get something there with your budget

Gotta lock my doors when I enter the west side.

Haven't looked west, family & friends all East so it would be a pain travelling to/from.

North is manageable due to eastern fwy/eastlink.

[dezz]

Bachelor of Arts is the bomb man like basically puts you straight on the fry station at McDonald's

But seriously mate sister did like aerospace engineering but like theirs zero jobs in Aus for that

Thought as much

And those who pursue careers that aren't particularly available in Australia, then cry about it.... Unlucky.

[Rekin]

f**k, flying qantas & don't have access to lounge. #fifoproblems

[UNR33L]

Yeah I dunno, wants to go into research Lee but I don't know how many research jobs there is.. shes casual at a big company doing admin/analyst work I'd think working her way up and going full time would be the way to go at the end of the year.

I'm finding it hard enough to get a new i.t job! let alone science! what sort of contract work did your mrs do?

Edited March 17, 2015 by UNR33L

[Rekin]

Yeah I dunno, wants to go into research Lee but I don't know how many research jobs there is.. shes casual at a big company doing admin/analyst work I'd think working her way up and going full time would be the way to go at the end of the year.

I'm finding it hard enough to get a new i.t job! let alone science! what sort of contract work did your mrs do?

Gotta make yourself stand out.

I've specialised & gained experience in a skill only found in people much senior than me.

All my colleagues tipping over 40 & are stuck in their old habits. Also helps that I'm working from a smaller wage (in comparison to them)

[UNR33L]

Gotta make yourself stand out.

I've specialised & gained experience in a skill only found in people much senior than me.

All my colleagues tipping over 40 & are stuck in their old habits. Also helps that I'm working from a smaller wage (in comparison to them)

Yeah, unfortunately I've been wasting my time staying at a place that doesn't give opportunities to step up so I've had enough and starting to look elsewhere.

I feel like some peoples bad habbits here have rubbed off and need to get back to my young 'career driven' self.

[Rekin]

Yeah, unfortunately I've been wasting my time staying at a place that doesn't give opportunities to step up so I've had enough and starting to look elsewhere.

I feel like some peoples bad habbits here have rubbed off and need to get back to my young 'career driven' self.

Yup worked with a colleague who was always negative & pessimistic on business direction. A highly qualified individual but did rub the management team the wrong way.

Surprise surprise, he got made redundant as opposed to me.

[emts]

Gotta lock my doors when I enter the west side.

Haven't looked west, family & friends all East so it would be a pain travelling to/from.

North is manageable due to eastern fwy/eastlink.

yeah move out west side, I could do with some new rims...

[emts]

Yeah I dunno, wants to go into research Lee but I don't know how many research jobs there is.. shes casual at a big company doing admin/analyst work I'd think working her way up and going full time would be the way to go at the end of the year.

I'm finding it hard enough to get a new i.t job! let alone science! what sort of contract work did your mrs do?

Sister in law is research assistant

still think she trying to take over the world, a couple years ago it was genetic manipulation now working on spreading virus.

but with the Gov cutting back on their research grants no idea if will still have a job in 3 months.,

all seem to be 6-12 month contracts as well.

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[Birds]

I'm just happy to have a job considering what's happened over the last 7 years or so.

And my job required a degree, though they never asked to see it, so as long as someone could talk the talk they could just skip the 4 years of uni. You could also get into my industry and kind of job simply by working your way up from an unskilled role, and if linkedin is anything to go by, plenty have done just that. I saw an attractive girl on there who was a customer service assistant and in 2 years became a state manager...now there was obviously a lot of cock sucking going on with that particular case, but my point is that whatever your career path, it's the effort and dedication to your career that's gonna make the difference, not whether you studied or did an apprenticeship or grew weed. Combine that with a bit of luck, good or bad, but for most part you tend to reap what you sow.

There are also upsides to uni besides getting a job. The emphasis is on teaching oneself to learn for oneself and to be open minded about research in a particular field; to share knowledge. It's a great and fun lifestyle to live while you're young. Old enough to appreciate learning unlike high school, but still young enough to party and fk around / experiment socially. You meet lots of people and have some awesome parties, depending what university you go to. Without uni I would be socially inept because my high school was fking shit for girls and people in general, and I'd prolly still be scared to talk to girls. So I don't regret going to uni even though I didn't end up doing what I primarily went there for, but if I had my time again I'd prolly do the tradie path and invest in property early on while mooching off parents. That being said, when I started uni, tradies weren't earning nearly as much as they have over the last 10 years and it was pretty widely seen as far from the wise option for someone with the potential to go to uni.

Lastly, no one should look down on anyone else for the path they've chosen or ended up in, as it's really none of your business and everyone has their own reasons for why they are where they are, both inside and outside their control. No piece of paper or amount of money makes you a better member of society, your personality has more play in that.

tl;dr: degrees > diplomas