Vic Wasteland Thread

[Borci88]

One thing that I don't understand that is they advertise like they need a worker urgently and when I contact them, they suddenly decide that they don't need one urgently. Happened to me 4 times today.

What's up with that?

They also legally have to advertise the position, even if they had someone in their own staff that was gonna get the position regardless.

[Count Grantleyish]

They also legally have to advertise the position, even if they had someone in their own staff that was gonna get the position regardless.

Mum just told me of it.

Annoying really.

[alr33x]

They also legally have to advertise the position, even if they had someone in their own staff that was gonna get the position regardless.

That's not all jobs, government it is but private not always

[Borci88]

That's not all jobs, government it is but private not always

You sure? That's what I learned in my Diploma of Management. Lots of private companies could get away with it though because it's not like the government is aware they need someone new.

[Count Grantleyish]

If this is the case, may as well write the job ad as 'I've hired someone and I'm forced to write this useless ad just cause the law told me so'

[alr33x]

How can private business be told by government they must advertise positions.

It's not uncommon to advertise and especially publicly listed companies for high end jobs etc but I'd be very surprised if its law. I do know government have to advertise from memory.

[SMOKEYV35]

Despite anti-discrmination policies, I'd say most companies of a decent size have that rule to stamp out favoritism, and to at least have some chance of ensuring they get the best candidates - not just a mate of a mate.

That being said, 90% of jobs are transacted on the private market.

Applying for jobs in seek etc is like taking a Hail Mary shot from the back of the court. I remember one job I applied for I was one of 250 applicants. 5 round interview process and got to final 2....then other person got it.

If you want a job, consider your experience, skills and interests - then start approaching companies that lend themselves to those criteria. Call front reception, ask to speak to the person responsible for hiring. It will be hit and miss but it's a much faster way to the decision maker than applying for any and every job on seek with a generic cover letter.

[Count Grantleyish]

So I'd best off not looking thru seek/career one/etc?

[Down_Shift]

I would still try them.

Have you thought of going to those agents? I found that they're mostly labouring work in factories from my experience though.

[SMOKEYV35]

No dont get me wrong. I didn't say don't use seek - im just saying there are other ways - you new to approach it from as many different angles as possible, an your best chance of standing out from the masses of applicants is to chose more obscure paths of application.

Good luck with your search - stay motivated, keep a routine and try not to procrastinate!

[bluejeans]

most jobs ive got have been through writing letters and then sending them out even when jobs haven't been advertised in the positions I've looked for

[Birds]

While we're here, don't write generic cover letters...target them for the company. It should be the applicant version of the job classified; a reply to it. Quickest way to get a discard is if they pick up on language that sounds like you haven't even read the job description!

[SMOKEYV35]

That or you forget to take out the company name of the last job you applied for.....had one of those cross my desk recently. Needless to say he did not get a call back.

[Birds]

That or you forget to take out the company name of the last job you applied for.....had one of those cross my desk recently. Needless to say he did not get a call back.

lol, the lazy and clever ones do a mail merge with company name tags throughout the letter!!! Still looks suss as fk.

[UNR33L]

THIS GUYS JUST A BAWS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PLibgFpse0

[Birds]

Also agree re: targeting companies specifically. Consultancy and agency companies who specialise in your field and outsource / account manage for other organisations are always happy to take a look at new candidates.

[Count Grantleyish]

*sighs* time to re-learn how to write a cover letter...

[UNR33L]

yep keep at it, i applied for a lot before my current role

dont forget when u do get that interview to walk suited up, confident as f**k too.

[Count Grantleyish]

Also need to buy a suit.

Damnit, shouldv'e of bought it when I was up in the UK.

[Count Grantleyish]

Hang on, what if the job is 'blue collar' wouldn't suit be bit wrong or?