Vic Wasteland Thread

[Odium]

I'm definitely not saying that it was sustainable.

I'm saying it is logical to spend when you can't afford it (to keep the economy going) and its logical to rein in the spending when times are better (like now).

But a 10 year plan of excessive cuts just to get a "number" back into check... This is going to hurt our growth in the long term...

[Birds]

Still not seeing the link between $900 per person and saving the economy, especially when so much of that was saved or sent overseas. $900 won't buy a car and keep someone in a job; thousands does.

But again, that was the cry of Labor MPs: "the rest of the world envies us, we have the strongest economy blah blah"...that doesn't link/prove that Labor's decision making kept us that way just because they were in power at the time. And even if it did, the spending existed because of a stronghold surplus that was built up by the previous government. If we fell into recession it would have been easy to say it couldn't be helped etc. that the rest of the world is in the same boat. It was always going to be tough for this current government, whoever got in last election, cause they had a lot of sweeping up to do after the party. Fortunately that's an LNP government because, whether you hate Abbott or disagree with policies and the budget, Labor don't have a great history of coming back out of that debt they usually put us in. Cycle continues.

But I know I'd rather have money in the bank and pull up my socks than an interest incurring debt.

[Birds]

I'm definitely not saying that it was sustainable.

I'm saying it is logical to spend when you can't afford it (to keep the economy going) and its logical to rein in the spending when times are better (like now).

But a 10 year plan of excessive cuts just to get a "number" back into check... This is going to hurt our growth in the long term...

Money has to come from somewhere...

You can have excessive cuts but there's also excessive spending and I reckon I know which one is more harmful to the future. Wouldn't have to cut as much if there wasn't so much debt

[Ero_Sennin]

anyway labor is currently in the shits in regards to the fatbatts debucle
someone needs to answer for what has happen with the 4 deaths

as for the budget, having friends who are in the shit due to their dependance for welfare and university/tafe studies are going to be hit much harder
as for me, the budget only affects me as a driver but thats something ive been used to for 10+ years

[ARTZ]

Still not seeing the link between $900 per person and saving the economy, especially when so much of that was saved or sent overseas. $900 won't buy a car and keep someone in a job; thousands does.

But again, that was the cry of Labor MPs: "the rest of the world envies us, we have the strongest economy blah blah"...that doesn't link/prove that Labor's decision making kept us that way just because they were in power at the time. And even if it did, the spending existed because of a stronghold surplus that was built up by the previous government. If we fell into recession it would have been easy to say it couldn't be helped etc. that the rest of the world is in the same boat. It was always going to be tough for this current government, whoever got in last election, cause they had a lot of sweeping up to do after the party. Fortunately that's an LNP government because, whether you hate Abbott or disagree with policies and the budget, Labor don't have a great history of coming back out of that debt they usually put us in. Cycle continues.

But I know I'd rather have money in the bank and pull up my socks than an interest incurring debt.

bullshit ti was saved...everybody ahd a little spend up at some point...even if they saved the 900 initially u can bet they spent money elsewhere..anyway one thing is for certain

NOBODY GAVE IT BACK !!!!

anyway, country was due for a recession regardless of who was in power...GFC hit...wasnt labours fault and the measly 40billion they gave away to the Australian public made f**k all difference in the big scheme of things...

I think its funny they just f**ked everything up, gives liberal a f**king job to do, and when its done people will be sick of their tightwad bullshit and vote in a labour governement to f**k it all up again...and so the cycle continues,,....

[ARTZ]

anyway labor is currently in the shits in regards to the fatbatts debucle

someone needs to answer for what has happen with the 4 deaths

as for the budget, having friends who are in the shit due to their dependance for welfare and university/tafe studies are going to be hit much harder

as for me, the budget only affects me as a driver but thats something ive been used to for 10+ years

Someone has to answer....How about the dodgey dream boats that put the batts in...

Nah we'll just pass the buck back onto the government...whats the point of that, government gets sued, taxpayers foot the bill not only for the damages but the whole f**king enquiry!!!...

[Ero_Sennin]

Someone has to answer....How about the dodgey dream boats that put the batts in...?

Nah we'll just pass the buck back onto the government...whats the point of that government gets sued, taxpayers foot the bill not only for the damages but the whole f**king enquiry!!!...Sometimes you just have to let bygones be bygones..

Agreed. at the end of the day we as taxpayers will have to pay. but try telling the families of those 4 killed that. the fact that so much could went wrong did and noone seemed to give a damn.

I remember that stimilus package...... spent that on a headunit

[Leroy Peterson]

I think the economy has just kept chugging along because a lot of people live beyond their means, paying things off over long periods of time. and also saving for holidays or money pits since we're such a recreational bunch (cars, boats, bikes, alcohol, decent food/local produce, gym, night life etc)

[ARTZ]

Bull...those families would have dealt with it, they have lost their sons and there is nothing that can be done about that...just like if you lost a child to war or to drugs there is nothing that can be done......nothing can ever bring them back or compensate their loss..Rudd and Garret are good men trying to do what they thought was best for their country...mistakes were made by many, nothing more nothing less ...

Its just the f**king hungry lawyers, the media and the Labour Lynch mob hovering around trying to make another dollar that would be bringing it all up to the surface again...

[Birds]

I saved my $900...

[Leroy Peterson]

not to mention that superannuation copped most of the gfc blow in oz it seems. lot of people lost a lot of money, but doesn't really affect day-to-day stuff

and the amount of foreign investment into Australia.

[Ero_Sennin]

Bull...those families would have dealt with it, they have lost their sons and there is nothing that can be done about that...just like if you lost a child to war or to drugs there is nothing that can be done......nothing can ever bring them back or compensate their loss..Rudd and Garret are good men trying to do what they thought was best for their country...mistakes were made by many, nothing more nothing less ...

Its just the f**king hungry lawyers, the media and the Labour Lynch mob hovering around trying to make another dollar that would be bringing it all up to the surface again...

dunno about garrett but rudd was a better leader then gillard was

its so easy to point the finger these days

[ARTZ]

I saved my $900...

what a load of bullshit, you spent it on your r33 and bought a motorbike...

[ARTZ]

not to mention that superannuation copped most of the gfc blow in oz it seems. lot of people lost a lot of money, but doesn't really affect day-to-day stuff

and the amount of foreign investment into Australia.

lol...f**king superannuation....see just another way society has all these ways of taking your cash and telling you it is to your benefit...

A few folks at our work, most of who are at the lower end of the foodchain lost everything...200k+ in super.. gone...would they let them get their super out to pay the mortgage ..no...house gone....back to renting and living on scraps....right back where you started 20 years ago....

i bet they spent their 900$ drowning their sorrows...who says it didn't stimulate the economy

[dezz]

Tobes, you serious? Dumbo wants to rape tradies

Leigh, old photo.

Don't know why people bother arguing politics, no one engaging in the argument is ever going to concede/change their views.. How many billions is that big eared retard spending on jets? Good move...

One thing that can't be argued is that Tony Abbot is a f**king moron.

Exhibit A

Case closed.

[dezz]

Exhibit B if you want more retardedness

[ARTZ]

Tobes, you serious? Dumbo wants to rape tradies

Leigh, old photo.

Don't know why people bother arguing politics, no one engaging in the argument is ever going to concede/change their views.. How many billions is that big eared retard spending on jets? Good move...

One thing that can't be argued is that Tony Abbot is a f**king moron.

Exhibit A

Case closed.

Exactly ,and most people spend their days justifying their electoral choice no matter how retarded they turn out to be...

Abbott seems to be getting as much love as Rudd these days...will be interesting to see how long he lasts...he is making sure his hand is in all the right pockets though

I hope Rudd gets up and says "shit happens" when confronted about the insulation scheme

[ARTZ]

You see this guy Dezz...

funny moron...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9cf_1392686169&comments=1

[ARTZ]

anyway , moving on...

Laurie Oaks for PM!!!!

[dezz]

Passionate..