Vic Wasteland Thread

[Kinkstaah]

Australia is notoriously tight assed when it comes to taking in refugees and ahem, boat people.

Like wildly so. We're really Xenophobic by comparison. It's one of the biggest beat-ups in Politics, it's right up there with running two intake mods murdering small children according to ACA

[UNR33L]

[Birds]

How is it xenophobic...I look at it from an economical standpoint; could give a stuff where the people are from.

That's similar logic to "does not agree with gay marriage" = homophobic

[HEKT1K]

Anyone else follow the Hungarian news? They've got the right idea I reckon

[Kinkstaah]

How is it xenophobic...I look at it from an economical standpoint; could give a stuff where the people are from.

That's similar logic to "does not agree with gay marriage" = homophobic

"dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries"

Our staunch resistance to immigration makes other people view us as Xenophobic, when nearly every other country in the world takes widly more refugees/immigrants/boat people and it's not an issue (or not nearly as big an issue) for those respective governments.

We kick up a huge stink over what most would consider an absolute non-issue.

[HEKT1K]

See above, I have refuted this point. On what basis do you speak for the rest of the world?

I hope you're better with comprehension than you are with cars

[Kinkstaah]

http://www.factsfightback.org.au/does-australia-take-the-most-refugees-check-the-facts/

The numbers are out there. We're not the worst, but we aren't exactly a humanitarian open the floodgates, bring in your sick, poor and frightened beacon of welcoming respite for those in need.

[Leroy Peterson]

what about the number of asylum seekers vs. visas granted/immigration numbers? most of the countries in the top 10 probably wouldnt have too many people applying to move there... and rather look at where the people are going, maybe its more important to look at where theyve come from.

Australia is a long way for asylum seekers to travel. its dangerous, probably expensive and very risky. If you were trying to get out of Egypt or Israel or palestine, getting to Jordan is probably a lot easier. like walking from Fitzroy to Frankston. its not going to be fun, but its doable.

in summary: charting of countries against each other is pointless.

[Birds]

"dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries"

Our staunch resistance to immigration makes other people view us as Xenophobic, when nearly every other country in the world takes widly more refugees/immigrants/boat people and it's not an issue (or not nearly as big an issue) for those respective governments.

We kick up a huge stink over what most would consider an absolute non-issue.

What resistance to immigration? We take in plenty of immigrants, through our legal channels. Australia is hardly an all white population; probably the most multiculturally diverse country in the world. We even have investment schemes and working visas set up for immigrants. If other countries view is as xenophobic...and I don't know who these are...perhaps countries who wouldn't be willing to take the boat people either...that's their problem and I could give a fk less.

But...I'm pretty sure most countries consider illegal immigrants an issue. Look at America with its border protection policies against Mexico and the south, and almost every sane developed nation against their neighbours.

Putting boat people who are trying to queue jump those taking the legal avenues to seek refuge, into the same category as the latter, is dumb. They are a different kettle of fish, even if their goals are the same.

I'm not interested into turning Australia into the sort of places a lot of the boat people come from, which is what happens when you hve unregulated immigration and burden your economy with thousands of other countries' problems before you fix the many in your own backyard.

[Mohsen]

its all newzealands fault

[alr33x]

Boat people can fark off.

I'm not racist I dislike them all equally.

[Kinkstaah]

I'm not saying it's not "an" issue.

But it was a headline election promise to stop the boats.

It may be a side effect of how little Australians genuinely have to worry about.

[alr33x]

well they have stopped the boats under labor it was a farce and costing billions of dollars that could be better spent elsewhere

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

FKN lol they haven't stopped any boats and it's still a farce costing bililons.

The boats still come, and people's lives are still at risk, the only difference is they intercept them in international waters now & try not to report the details.

[Ants]

FKN lol they haven't stopped any boats and it's still a farce costing bililons.

The boats still come, and people's lives are still at risk, the only difference is they intercept them in international waters now & try not to report the details.

I vote Hamish for PM

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

I vote Hamish for PM

First thing I would do would be make both codes of footy illegal... just for teh lulz

[Birds]

FKN lol they haven't stopped any boats and it's still a farce costing bililons.

The boats still come, and people's lives are still at risk, the only difference is they intercept them in international waters now & try not to report the details.

Prevention is better than cure

There are much less boats coming under Abbott's regime and incidentally less deaths too

It's about sending a message that they will get nowhere here so try somewhere else - that message is being sent now

Labor's version made every boat person:

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

Prevention is better than cure

There are much less boats coming under Abbott's regime and incidentally less deaths too

Turning a boat around and having people die somewhere else then not letting the press know =/= less death.

[alr33x]

hamish you cant be serious? its not Australia problem these people get in shitty little boats and try to illegally enter another country, do you think if you hopped in a little rusty dingy heading to China they would give two shits about you? no it would be your stupidity. Same applies for these economic refugees. (possible terrorists)

Its factually correct that Liberal has reduced the amount of boat people and the policies have deterred people from trying as opposed to the record number of arrivals under Krudd, Gillard & co.

[Birds]

Turning a boat around and having people die somewhere else then not letting the press know =/= less death.

It equals less certainty of death