Roil Results

[meshmesh]

Enrico that should be intersting...Also did any of put it in your gearbox aswell??

[Bass Junky]

I just did yesterday.

No results yet.

[EnricoPalazzo]

Nah mate none in my box cos my box is pretty good, no clunks and stuff, plus i didnt know how to hehe.

[gslrallysport]

Roil doesn't have any harmfull deposits... beleive me, the only deposits it'll make are those already there that its cleaning... give it two or three oil changes... then check what's coming out as compared to what's going it... Australian Dragster Magazine has recommended Roil for quite some time now... Atholwood and Smith (The 2000 Australian Dragster Champs) used to break a drive pinion in their 5500hp drag car every two or three runs... after soaking it in roil they did 26 passes before it gave way... Take it from someone who learned to love the product through what he found out about it, and the benifits it brought with no side effects... The business idea came only through being so thrilled about it, and wanting to share it with other...

Guys if i didn't have your best interests at heart, would i have:

1. Given out free samples (ie. put my arse on the line and put my money where my mouth was)?

2. Put up with some of the dogmatic bullsh!t some ppl through at me in the early stages?

and,

3. Prepared to donate money back into the forum for which I used, and have everyone benifit because of it?

Seriously, every negative comment made i COMPLETELY understand where you're all coming from... All you've got to do is walk down the isle of any Autobarn, Repco, etc. to see at least 5 products that claim to do the same thing... and we all know they don't... that's why Roil isn't sold on the shelf... It needs ppl who have believed and seen for themselves the results.. and after all, wouldn't these ppl make the best sales ppl anyway, those that aren't tought from a book but see the real world results...

Be open to it, as many already have... and look at what they're saying... For those who have followed this from the begining can vouch, there's nothing i've said that i haven't been able to back up... beleive me guys... this sh!t is the real deal....

[gslrallysport]

For those of you who have just placed orders, or are about to, I apologise... I've just finished a fundraiser using Roil, and am running VERY low on stock... I'll order some more in today or tomorrow depending on demand, so most of you should have it by mid to late next week... Sorry...

[gslrallysport]

Hey all,

For those that haven't gone through the entire thread, these are the reports that people who have tried Roil on this forum have got back to us with....

Well, I can only report good things.

It took a good 300-400kms before I noticed a difference, at first I was very sceptical, and thought perhaps the differences were due to weather changes (getting cooler). Now, after 750 (approx) kms, I can say with confidence, that its not the weather - having experieced warmer days as well as cooler mornings, traffic jams and open winding roads.

My car is daily driven, and gets the odd spirited drive throught twisty bits. To quantify the results, I dont have back to back dynos, but here is what I found from the driver's seat:

Off boost torque is greatly improved - the car is running smoother.

before using roil, I was unable to shift to 4th gear before around 63-65kmh, as the engine laboured enough that I didnt feel comfortable, 5th gear was only for use above 75khm in a straight line (higher if going up inclines or hills of course). I think this is partly due to running aftermarket cams and a decompressed engine. Overall, the engine runs alot smoother.

Now I find that I can drive in 4th gear at 50kmh no probs , even accelerate up an incline. 5th gear is ok from around 65kmh.

Boost comes in earlier.

I am now getting 1lb of boost at around 2200rpm, and 5psi at 3000rpm. Previously, I was getting 3psi at 3000rpm. This is for 3rd gear. 1bar is now reached approx (very hard to guage exactly, as boost tends to hit hard by this stage, so I guaged it using my Power fc peak hold) 2-300rpm earlier. It was easier to guage what boost was doing at the lower pressures (safer )

Another thing I have noticed, and I am not sure if this is related or not - it has me a bit confused - knock is actually down marginally???? before using roil, it would peak to around 36-38 regularly. I havent seen it go above 27 for a while now, but am unsure what this would be? This is driving on warmer days, and cooler days, thrashing and taking it easy. Anyone have any thoughts?

My car is just so much nicer to drive - I am very happy with the results and would recommend anyone give this stuff a go, for both power and driveability. I definately will be using it again, thanks Jetpilot.

Hi ppls.

I have purchased some Roil and put it in my engine only so far.

I almost immediatly (50-70klms) noticed the car was different.

These are the things I began to notice.

The car runs at a slightly lower temperature than before. Insted of sitting just above a line on the temp gauge, it sits just below.

The oil also takes a little bit longer to heat up from cold.

The car now feels like it has a heavier flywheel on decelleration. IE. Not when accelerating, but between gears and on the decell.

The revs tend to stay up for longer (like a low powered 4 cylinder with a heavy flywheel).

Boost response is DEFINENTLY up. I am able to make good pressure even in 5th gear at 1800 rpm.

During normal driving, the response is improved (not that I ever had lag problems) but I can now make full boost about 200-300 rpm earlier.

Also, I can sit at low speeds in 5th gear, floor the throttle and insted of having to raise a few hundred rpm before making pressure, the thing now begins making boost almost immediately.

I can't yet say whether it uses less fuel, as I was half way through a tank when I put the Roil in.

I will keep people informed, and I am also about to put it in the Transmission (if I can ever find the damn hole to put it in!!) and test that out.

I'll keep everyone informed.

BASS OUT

PS. Does anybody know how much oil is in the transmission and where to put the stuff??

Excuse my ignorance.

Alrighty, firstly some history:

Car:

1993 Skyline R33 S1

Mods:

17 inch Mags

Lots of ricy green paint

I have never met this person whom supplied this product, nor am I in any way affiliated with the manufacturer in any way.

Roil Diary:

26/3

Roil arrived by mail, had heaps of product endorsing paperwork with it, to which I promptly put in a pile to forget about, sorry but I am after facts of my own.

After stuffing around asking how much to put it because I am a noob, I added 300 mL into a semi-hot motor (been sitting after driving 6 kms home for about 3 hours)

Drove along the highway doing the limits 141 km’s, no noticeable difference, not giving it any time to either, was raining and hit heavy traffic going north from Brisbane.

27/3

“Seemed” to start faster but then again it might be the placebo affect, also added 100mL to my power steering fluid.

Drove home along highway 143 km’s, no noticeable difference, gave it a bit getting onto the highway too.

Total Kms since adding: 287

28/3

Time to give it a bit I go through the gateway toll booths a lot and have roughly guesstimated my speed at certain points and today I got off the mark well and got to the first bump going up the bridge from the gates and hit my markers at around the same time, so no noticeable difference yet.

Did notice that my power steering used to make this awful groaning noise, well not awful, but anyway it made this noise when I was standing still and moving the wheel, and this sound has gone now, so happy with that.

Total Kms since adding: 444

29/3

Road was a bit wet this morning on the way to work, and this road I know very well and did notice that the boost was punching in at around 2k to 2.5k rpm when it used to punch in between 2.5k to 3k rpm. Sweet!

Total Kms since adding: 459

30/3

No other differences but the turbo and power steering noise gone noticed.

Total Kms since adding: 474

1/4

Went on weekly cruise and told about the turbo to which everyone had a good laugh and said it was probably my imagination, but I stand by my finding, and tested it thoroughly tonight, yeap defiantly between 1mm before 2k and 2.5k rpm boost punches in.

Total Kms since adding: 582

2/4

Again went out cruising and watched the boost gauge and yes defiantly punches in where I am guesstimating it is.

Total Kms since adding: 694

4/4

Did my race to the marker from the toll gates again and noticed that when I hit it I am going about ~10kms faster, but then again I might have got a better start, not too much wheel spin that time, so I am not attributing that to roil.

Total Kms since adding: 862

So basically I own a totally stock car except for the mags so I did not think I would see much difference whatsoever and basically you can all laugh and tell me I am dreaming, but I did notice a difference in the turbo boost time, which I like because I hate lag.

I took the old owner, which I am good mates with and asked him if he saw any difference, before telling him anything. After he had a couple of trips around the block, he thought that the turbo was coming on sooner, not as much as I guessed, but he defiantly said it was coming on sooner, not by much though. He attributed it to a pod, when he asked I told him about roil, and showed him the bottle to which he looked at it and said, “hmmmm well I thought all these did nothing, hmmmm”

I am very interested in what results other people had, especially in a car that has more boost, bigger turbo, bigger everything

Anyway that is my independent report. I was a sceptic, thinking that I probably would not see any difference so I was very surprised to see it had some effect!

Today 7/4 I am putting in a highflow filter which I have been wanting to put in but did not want to put it in mid-testing.

All results were measured by the seat of my pants by myself in my own car.

Edited July 13, 2006 by jetpilot1986

[gslrallysport]

And finally,

Ok, I trialled Roil for Jet Pilot about 1.5 months ago. Straight away I noticed alot of differences, however I didnt post the results as I was waiting to get my car dynoed for back to back dynos to see if it showed any differences.

Start: Added about 350mL of Roil to my cars oil which had already 1000kms on it (Castrol Synthetic R 5-30W)

At that time the car was running absoultely shit house, i had a really bad tune on my car which had resulted in it running really really bad, the car would rev and not make any power at all. So consequently i didnt push it in fear of breaking something. Also at this time i noted my Oil pressure reading of 4 at cruising speed once warm, Boost reading of 11psi at 2800rpm.

Week 1: 400kms ran in. The first thing I noticed was that the car would cold start alot easier. Previously the car would start then hover around 600rpm, then almost stall until i applied some throttle where it would rev to 2000rpm and slowly settle around 1200rpm. After installing Roil, the cold start problems where gone, and the car would instantly rev to 1200rpm, then once warm operate at its normal 800-900rpm at idle. This was the first thing I noticed.

Week 2: approxiametly 700kms ran in. Since i was not pushin my car much, i was not able to comment on the lessened spoolup time everyone else had been experiencing. I noticed that I was now gettin fuel economy a lot better then ever before. Previously I would get 430-460kms MAX to a tank of 63L. Week 2 showed 508 kms to a tank, then I filled 60L into it.

Week 3: 1200Kms in. Fuel economy was even better then previous. 538Kms to a tank, then filled in 62L. WOW i was happy as. One day driving home from work, an idiot in a WRX was being an idiot trying to race everyone. Then he started pissin me off trying to get me into a race. I knew my car was not runnin very well due to my aftermarket ECU being crap house, but this guy really annoied me. So I gunned it and to my amazment, the car felt good. No where near what the car used to be like (When it had a good tune) but it seemed to rev alot cleaner then without ROIL and the bad tune. Some how Roil had helped the engine in allowin it to rev alot better then before. I wasted the WRX and was happy as, even thou the car had alot of potential left in it. I also noticed that 11psi was appearing 200rpm before it used to (hence 2600rpm not 2800 rpm). It is obviously hard to notice this whilst driving so I had a passenger confirm this with me.

Week 4-8: Car was still running so bad, so I disconnect my aftermarked ECU and plugged in stock ECU and reset it. WOW the car felt excellent, far better then it used to. Cold start was excellent still. Boost was now at 2500rpm at 11psi And the engine felt fast as from seat of the pants feeling.

So in conclusion, I really do believe that ROIL is an excellent product. I only trialled it in my engine, and I will continue to use it. Id like to thank JETPILOT for the FREE SAMPLE without any problems, hesitations or anything. He has truely been an excellent person to deal with and i commend him for puttin up with the bs alot of people have been spinning. So finally, I felt better boost spoolup, Alot better fuel econonmy, corrected my cold start problem, and believe it has increased the performance of my engine.

Dean

Roil has been in my car now for about 1100km. It went in with an oil change and I used Mobil 1 Super Synth. I also cleaned my air filter and gave the car a full service.

Initially the car felt more responsive but I'm tipping the fresh oil and clean air filter were responsible.

It was after about 600km when the benefits first became evident. I NEVER use 5th gear below 80km/h because I feel the car 'struggles' too much. Without even noticing I was cruising along at 60km/h in 5th gear. I was like "WTF?!?!" My "5th gear rule" has now been revised to accept speeds above 70, not 80. This is also reflected at 100km/h. Less force on the throttle is required to keep it at 100.

The biggest difference is the increase in boost responsiveness. Cruising at 50km/h (before Roil) I could flatten the foot and see the boost gauge rise to 13psi at about 2900-3000. Just today I did the same test and the needle rose to the same position at 2500-2600. I was like "WTF?!?!"

About 1000km before I put Roil in I got a new set of rims and tires. I was very impressed with my new rubber (rear 255/35/18). No matter how hard I tried, I couldn’t get them to spin in 2nd. At best they would chirp. With the boost now coming on a lot earlier I can now get them to spin, not like they used to (with 205s), but they spin none the less.

I haven’t noticed a change in fuel consumption and I'm going to blame the fact that more fuel is now required down lower in the rev range to compensate the additional boost. Next time I fill up I'll try taking it easy to see if any gains are happening there. I usually average about 450km to a tank.

Roil gets 11/10 for 'Bang for Buck'. It’s almost like adding a high flow cat... and at a 10th of the price!

The skeptics are missing out

They're exact copies of those reports, once again i'd like to thank those involved...

Edited July 3, 2006 by jetpilot1986

[JimX]

Ok this is not directly related to Roil, but I'll post it here anyway because it's semi-related.

All this talk of Roil made me decide to try putting the Oil Extreme Concentrate that I've had lying around for ages in my engine. I didn't do as much scientific testing as other people have with Roil, all I did was put it in while the engine was running and then see how it felt. And then use fuel economy later as a judge as to whether or not it really did anything.

I put the stuff slowly in while idling my engine, just so that one spot didn't get the whole lot at once and do something funny. The first thing I noticed is that my idle speed increased slightly, although after a few minutes the ECU re-adjusted itself and it was back to normal.

I then went for a drive and the car did seem a bit more responsive. From my understanding of the Oil Extreme website and what my mechanic told me years ago, this stuff does not affect your viscosity and after checking my oil before and after this seems to be true. The Oil Extreme concentrate itself is very thick and goopy when cold, I think that *if* it did thin out your oil it would have to have some very bizarre viscosity properties itself, like having a weight of 50W-minus 20. I checked my oil (5W-50) after the run and it seems just as thick as before, and not nearly as watery as my old 5W-30. So it seems to be doing something without thinning the oil, and hopefully that's something good.

Oh, and the best thing about it? My gear ratios have also changed! (just kidding)

Anyway my main point is that if everything is still fine and improved after I run out of Oil Extreme (I got one bottle left) I'll be willing to give Roil a go. If only because it seems to be essentially the same stuff and Roil is easier to buy (dunno where to get Oil Extreme easily anymore).

[Steve]

Update.

I have been monitoring my fuel economy, and now, after doing an oil change, and adding the remnants of what was left in the bottle I got (about 80ml), I have some definate trend results.

Today I got my best ever economy since fitting my 550cc injectors.

Before roil, I was using between 16 and 19L per 100km (worse was over 20L/100km). After roil (for well over a month now) I have been getting at worse 16L per 100km, but averaging high 14L to low 15L. Today I actually got 13.9L/100, needless to say I am pretty happy as my car is a daily driver.

Once again Jetpilot, thanks very much. I will definately be using this stuff again next time I change my oil. the fuel savings more than pay for it with todays prices.

[gslrallysport]

Oh, and the best thing about it? My gear ratios have also changed!  (just kidding)

lol... it even made me laugh....

Once again Jetpilot, thanks very much. I will definately be using this stuff again next time I change my oil. the fuel savings more than pay for it with todays prices.

No worries budy... glad i could help....

[riggaP]

Roil has been in my car now for about 1100km. It went in with an oil change and I used Mobil 1 Super Synth. I also cleaned my air filter and gave the car a full service.

Initially the car felt more responsive but I'm tipping the fresh oil and clean air filter were responsible.

It was after about 600km when the benefits first became evident. I NEVER use 5th gear below 80km/h because I feel the car 'struggles' too much. Without even noticing I was cruising along at 60km/h in 5th gear. I was like "WTF?!?!" My "5th gear rule" has now been revised to accept speeds above 70, not 80. This is also reflected at 100km/h. Less force on the throttle is required to keep it at 100.

The biggest difference is the increase in boost responsiveness. Cruising at 50km/h (before Roil) I could flatten the foot and see the boost gauge rise to 13psi at about 2900-3000. Just today I did the same test and the needle rose to the same position at 2500-2600. I was like "WTF?!?!"

About 1000km before I put Roil in I got a new set of rims and tires. I was very impressed with my new rubber (rear 255/35/18). No matter how hard I tried, I couldn’t get them to spin in 2nd. At best they would chirp. With the boost now coming on a lot earlier I can now get them to spin, not like they used to (with 205s), but they spin none the less.

I haven’t noticed a change in fuel consumption and I'm going to blame the fact that more fuel is now required down lower in the rev range to compensate the additional boost. Next time I fill up I'll try taking it easy to see if any gains are happening there. I usually average about 450km to a tank.

Roil gets 11/10 for 'Bang for Buck'. It’s almost like adding a high flow cat... and at a 10th of the price!

The skeptics are missing out :uh-huh:

[gslrallysport]

The skeptics are missing out

Tru dat ... thanks buddy, and for every body else... i didn't supply this Roil, so thanks for the results even so...

Cheers

[gslrallysport]

Oh and i know wot you mean about the 5th gear rule... even now i found myself trying to grab 4th, when infact i'm trying to grab reverse (when i think i'm in 3rd, but am actually in 5th.....) Its pretty freaky at first.....

[Zagan]

5th Gear at 60klms?

Are you sure that's right, All the specs say you only need to use 5th gear when doing over 180klms to 200+klms.

That would be a very low speed for such a high gear, in my Corona I only have to change into 4th around 60klms, can do up to 80klms in 3rd then switch up to 4th.

The only problem with treatment I can see is that they usually only mask problems and when the problem is so bad only then does it show up because the treatment can't mask the problem anymore.

You have trucks and buses going for months without any major services being done on these vehicles.

The RACQ and Wyinns(major treatment maker in Australia) say you shouldn't use treatments all the time because they they only mask problems and you should get any problems you have seen to properly.

[gslrallysport]

In my old 1.3L Charade 5th was useable from just below 60kms after using Roil... so RiggaP's results are pretty well lineball with what i would have excepted...

Also wot problems are you specifically talking about?

As for Wynns...

[riggaP]

5th Gear at 60klms?

Are you sure that's right,  All the specs say you only need to use 5th gear when doing over 180klms to 200+klms.

:confused: :confused: With comments like that its hard to believe you've ever been in a manual car before.

Why the hell would any car manuacturer put a 5th gear into ANY gear box if it cannot be used in everyday driving???

When in 5th gear @ 60km/h the revs are around 1500-1800 (cant remember exactly). In 5th at 180km/h the car revs at about 5000.

Where are these 'specs' that say you only need 5th over 180km/h?

[JimX]

5th Gear at 60klms?

Are you sure that's right,  All the specs say you only need to use 5th gear when doing over 180klms to 200+klms.

Which specs where?

[4door_Sleeper]

5th Gear at 60klms?

All the specs say you only need to use 5th gear when doing over 180klms to 200+klms.

I think this translates to the boy racer style of driving, where you only change gears when you hear the valves bouncing :Bang:

PS Zagan, when you get a car, and you are allowed to drive it, ask your mum to help you change the gears. :jk:

[EnricoPalazzo]

I use 5th from 40km/h ->

I find it best when i race aswell. mad acceleration

[JimX]

Which specs where?

From the non-existent response, I'd say it was the specs that he pulled out of his magical arse.