Impact Of Petrol Prices

[nomnomv8]

Coming back recently from a holiday in our neighbouring NZ i got quiet a shock when i saw regular unleaded prices of $2.10 there!

Our situation with petrol prices might be pretty but we still have it relatively well in comparison to other countries out there

[IOWNU]

I went to Dubai recently. 35c a litre for 98 octane. Petrol isn't even a factor.

I know we can never have petrol that cheap as we can't just shove a pipe in the ground and hope for the best.

But still.

While we're on the topic of price disparity, my friend had a 2010 S500 AMG, every option known to man, $90,000 brand new. If we should complain about anything, it should be that.

Brand new m5 will cost $90,000 in the USA.....we will probably pay double if not more. Dealerships or Stealerships?

Let Holden/Ford build better cars or sink.

[xALmoN]

its the minimum wage that makes it cost that much though. no?

if you have to pay more for labour, you'll end up having to charge more for the product.

[starwarz]

And your qualifications are???

Scientists always serving some up to no good agenda? Really?

So oil isn't really running out and its a conspiracy to charge people more for something unlimited?

I think global warming is an example of a liberal agenda to get everybody behind a socialist agenda, its created many fanatics who are suggesting in journal arcticles in which the majority of the gullible would never read and the media will never report on. Depopulations and ways to acheive it so we can save the world from global warming doomsday.

The Medical Journal of Australia has published a report by a professor who suggests that couples with more than two children should be charged a lifelong tax to offset their extra offspring's carbon dioxide emissions.

The report in an Australian medical journal called for parents to be charged $5000 a head for every child after their second, and an annual tax of up to $800,

reports the AAP.

And couples who were sterilised would be eligible for carbon credits under the controversial proposal.

The report, written by Perth specialist Professor Barry Walters, also suggests that the government should introduce a "baby levy" in the form of a carbon tax in line with the "polluter pays" principle"

Just giving an example, wonder why the great western powers have nothing to say against China's one child policy.These are the same people who will rather keep Africa undeveloped then letting them see any modern production capabilities and they will have their scientist tell you its bad if Africa starts using oil because the Arctic will melt. Theygive them some bullshit Windmills and Solar panels but they arent getting anything remotely productive out of it.

Edited April 23, 2012 by starwarz

[Mayuri Krab]

The Medical Journal of Australia has published a report by a professor who suggests that couples with more than two children should be charged a lifelong tax to offset their extra offspring's carbon dioxide emissions.

The report in an Australian medical journal called for parents to be charged $5000 a head for every child after their second, and an annual tax of up to $800,

reports the AAP.

And couples who were sterilised would be eligible for carbon credits under the controversial proposal.

The report, written by Perth specialist Professor Barry Walters, also suggests that the government should introduce a "baby levy" in the form of a carbon tax in line with the "polluter pays" principle"

I like this idea... mainly because I hate kids... LOL

Or they should at least stop giving out baby bonus so easily. Know a bunch of people who just live off that $$$ (keeping on having a new kid every time the last one's money is about to cease until they are at retirement age).

[mad082]

its the minimum wage that makes it cost that much though. no?

if you have to pay more for labour, you'll end up having to charge more for the product.

that's spot on. minimum wage in australia is double what it is in the states. a few months back i did a comparison on how much it costs to buy things in australia vs US based of minimum wage. rather than just comparing dollar values, i put it into how many hours you would have to work to pay for it. generally worked out that someone on minimum wage in australia had to work noticably less hours to be able to afford goods.

and with cars, etc, other countries have different spec to us, and different safety regulations, so you can't directly compare prices.

[AngryRB]

Driving a skyline everyday is too expensive, especially when your squirting, and hyundai excels are just gay lol

Pick yourself up a nice fairmont with LPG for a few grand and still have a bit of fun and pay $40 for up to 800km's plus when it comes to the weekend you'll enjoy the squirts that much more.

Sadly i dont have an LPG car but an old falcon or similar is whats needed for daily duties, 10L/100kms on fuel and dont worry bout getting it scratched/stolen or a bird shitting on the paint while its baking in the sun all day.

[Adriano]

Have you seen the price of LPG, its hardly cheaper than running on petrol.

[adamskill]

i just find it so hard to 'worry' about petrol prices, when other goods/services are getting more expensive by the minute!!!

e.g in since 1990 the prices of basic food staples like bread, tea, milk, sugar, potatoes, butter and eggs have almost tripled, some primal cuts of meats have quadrupled in price. its at the point now where there are a few cuts of meat that you will NEVER see on a restaurant menu, as it would have to be at an insane price, just to cover costs.

the qld government data base lists the average price of fuel in Brisbane in 1990 at $0.63 so fuel prices have roughly doubled in that time.

as a professional chef, the cost of fuel is a joke to my industry, compared to the rising cost of food. its f**king scary! its near impossible these days to make a decent living owning a restaurant, especially in the fine dining scene.

[Cowboy1600]

i just find it so hard to 'worry' about petrol prices, when other goods/services are getting more expensive by the minute!!!

e.g in since 1990 the prices of basic food staples like bread, tea, milk, sugar, potatoes, butter and eggs have almost tripled, some primal cuts of meats have quadrupled in price. its at the point now where there are a few cuts of meat that you will NEVER see on a restaurant menu, as it would have to be at an insane price, just to cover costs.

the qld government data base lists the average price of fuel in Brisbane in 1990 at $0.63 so fuel prices have roughly doubled in that time.

as a professional chef, the cost of fuel is a joke to my industry, compared to the rising cost of food. its f**king scary! its near impossible these days to make a decent living owning a restaurant, especially in the fine dining scene.

Average wage in 1990 - $544/week

Average wage in 2011 - $1366/week.

Not quite three times, but pretty close.

Prices go up, average earnings goes up. Everything pretty much stays the same. In fact I'd say in this day and age someone on the average wage has waaaaaaaay more disposable income than someone had on the average wage in 1990. Lots of things have gotten much, much MUCH cheaper. I was thinking about tyres for my bike today. Three years ago I couldn't get a decent set fitted for under $550. These days I can get a good set fitted for $400. That's a significant saving. There are lots of other examples I could come up with.

No matter how things change, they always stay the same.

As for fuel in QLD, I remember paying $0.49/litre for it in the mid to late 90s. I used to always fill up at A servo in Nerang on my way home from Bris. As soon as you hit the NSW border fuel would jump 25c/litre. Seems silly now. I used to get 26 litres for my $20. I put $20 in today and got 11.5 litres. In 1997 I earned probably $30,000. I earned more than triple that last year, so I'm not complaining.

Edited April 28, 2012 by Cowboy1600

[mad082]

Yeah cowboy is right. Pricea of a lot of stuff has gone up, but a lot of stuff has dropped, especially electronics. If everything was so expensive and it was so hard to make ends meet then how are so many people able to buy big screen tvs, new cars, nice houses? sure it might be a touch harder for low income earners to get by, but not that much.

[Cowboy1600]

It's a fairly basic condition of humans. The more we have, the more we want. Perceived needs.

Look at "poor" people's homes today. Bigger and filled with more shit than those considered poor 30 years ago. Gee, sucks to smoke a $15 pack of smokes a day and have to sit in front of a 55" LCD. Of course the Commonwhore in the driveway with mags, spoilers and drainpipe exhaust isn't exactly a Ferrari, but it's still more than basic.

Average wage earners have nothing at all to worry about. If someone can't get by on the average wage these days it's because they are living beyond their means, not because things are too expensive. The only thing which has really increased in price beyond reasonable is housing. But even accounting for paying a greater portion of the weeks wages for housing, we're still left with a very high amount of disposable income.

[adamskill]

Average wage in 1990 - $544/week

Average wage in 2011 - $1366/week.

Not quite three times, but pretty close.

Prices go up, average earnings goes up. Everything pretty much stays the same. In fact I'd say in this day and age someone on the average wage has waaaaaaaay more disposable income than someone had on the average wage in 1990. Lots of things have gotten much, much MUCH cheaper. I was thinking about tyres for my bike today. Three years ago I couldn't get a decent set fitted for under $550. These days I can get a good set fitted for $400. That's a significant saving. There are lots of other examples I could come up with.

No matter how things change, they always stay the same.

As for fuel in QLD, I remember paying $0.49/litre for it in the mid to late 90s. I used to always fill up at A servo in Nerang on my way home from Bris. As soon as you hit the NSW border fuel would jump 25c/litre. Seems silly now. I used to get 26 litres for my $20. I put $20 in today and got 11.5 litres. In 1997 I earned probably $30,000. I earned more than triple that last year, so I'm not complaining.

i cant even imagine what it would be like to make money like that!

i dont disagree with what your saying, but your generalising a very subjective thing. i suppose i did a bit too. but the hospitality industry certainly doesnt follow most 'trends' i have found from may many years involved in it.

Edited April 28, 2012 by adamskill

[Cowboy1600]

i cant even imagine what it would be like to make money like that!

i dont disagree with what your saying, but your generalising a very subjective thing. i suppose i did a bit too. but the hospitality industry certainly doesnt follow most 'trends' i have found from may many years involved in it.

Woops! Actually, that was a typo. I make about 2.5 times that amount now. Three times would be nice I'd be able to shout myself a new dirt bike!

[The Bogan]

When I started my apprenticeship in 1981 I was on $65 a week.

I still had enough money to save for my 1st car, a Mini, it was awesome.

[zebra]

Who teh f**k earns 1300 a week?

I want that job

Sounds more like a 2 income home to me

[Piggaz]

Who teh f**k earns 1300 a week?

I want that job

Sounds more like a 2 income home to me

Before or after tax?

Any 'normal tradie' working for a decent company almost clears that for a 5 day week.

[nomnomv8]

Before or after tax?

Any 'normal tradie' working for a decent company almost clears that for a 5 day week.

Normal 5 day week and clearing 1300? Theres are a few tradies out there earning 45+ an hour but i certainly wouldnt say its "normal". If you had said clearing 1300 with a saturday or weekday OT fair enough

[Piggaz]

Normal 5 day week and clearing 1300? Theres are a few tradies out there earning 45+ an hour but i certainly wouldnt say its "normal". If you had said clearing 1300 with a saturday or weekday OT fair enough

5 day flat week we are sitting at about $1200 in the hand about to go through an EBA (pay negotiations). Haven't done a Saturday for a year now (go economy, yay) but an 8 hour Saturday is worth about $600 before tax.

Obviously not talking about 1 man in a van/domestic crap here.

[Cowboy1600]

The average wage, which current sits at about $69,000, is gross, not nett, which is just over $1k a week after tax but before any levies or anything, ie, Medicare Levy. So consider it a round $1k/week after tax.