Copped A Canary Help!

[w34ponGT]

ok guys copped a minor canary with no rwc cert

the list of attention says:

ground clearance of min 100 plus change exhaust to one that complies with standards

theres nothing wrong with my exhaust its aftermarket but dont know what vicroads need to check for that?

also my car has factory shocks with king springs (previous owner) and he pushed on my guard saying its to stiff when its factory suspension? and i heard my guard crack and as there aluminium there weak and i thought the f**ks couldnt touch your car?

[Cowboy1600]

No such thing as too stiff. The only defectable things when it comes to suspension are worn shocks (bounce before settle more than twice) or anything obviously illegally modified (chopped springs/bump stops).

Exhaust I assume means noise so a $40 noise check should resolve it. As for too much low, have you measured it? Is it too low?\

Also, what kind of car?

Edited October 22, 2011 by Cowboy1600

[w34ponGT]

nah its not an epa it just says change exhaust to meet standards and it does. he said it needs to bounce when push it ive never heard of that. its a 34 gtr

[Cowboy1600]

nah its not an epa it just says change exhaust to meet standards and it does. he said it needs to bounce when push it ive never heard of that. its a 34 gtr

What does it say you have to do to clear it?

[w34ponGT]

parts of vehicle in need of attention:

ground clearance

suspension

exhaust

attention required:

to be min 100mm to retain 2/3 original travel

aftermarket exhaust to be replaced with exhaust that complies with standards

wtffff is wrong with my exhaust? nothing. and change to what its not an epa my exhaust is like any other exhaust so il go vicroads and say yep 100mm and my mechanic made my exhaust to comply with standards of absolute bullshit

[Cowboy1600]

parts of vehicle in need of attention:

ground clearance

suspension

exhaust

attention required:

to be min 100mm to retain 2/3 original travel

aftermarket exhaust to be replaced with exhaust that complies with standards

wtffff is wrong with my exhaust? nothing. and change to what its not an epa my exhaust is like any other exhaust so il go vicroads and say yep 100mm and my mechanic made my exhaust to comply with standards of absolute bullshit

Does your exhaust have a cat? And how loud is it?

[mad082]

parts of vehicle in need of attention:

ground clearance

suspension

exhaust

attention required:

to be min 100mm to retain 2/3 original travel

aftermarket exhaust to be replaced with exhaust that complies with standards

wtffff is wrong with my exhaust? nothing. and change to what its not an epa my exhaust is like any other exhaust so il go vicroads and say yep 100mm and my mechanic made my exhaust to comply with standards of absolute bullshit

you also have to take note of the second part of the bold text. you could get a 4wd hilux and lower it to be 102mm off the ground, but since it would have pretty much no suspension travel it would be illegal.

so going off what you said about it having stock shocks with king springs, it isn't running stock suspension like you said in an earlier post. it has most likely been lowered. if it hasn't been drastically lowered then it should still have at least 2/3rds of the original suspension travel.

oh and as for the ground clearance, even having a zip tie hanging down below 100mm can cause you to be defected for being too low.

[sh@un]

I'm sure highway patrol have a booklet that lists all the standard suspension travel values of every car made too

[thekidd]

I'm sure highway patrol have a booklet that lists all the standard suspension travel values of every car made too

No but I'm sure they can defect you on suspicion.

[AngryRB]

it seems down south is tough with the laws, each time ive been pulled over they have never even thought of popping the bonnet or measuring the height of the car, lucky me..

but they seem to come up with some odd assumptions, my bro was pulled over for just accelerating past them under the speed limit with zero boost, a young officer said you were boosting back there,, as if comming on boost is an offence???? not his fault his car is quicker off boost than there camry shitbox.. lol pulled me over and reckoned i was doing a burnout, i was on 1500rpm .. as if.. gees...

[M.C Ren]

this is exactly why they make me sick, get the db rating of your exhaust checked and get the person checking to write on the notice what exhaust it is, so they can see next time that it passes regs, go to a suspension place and get a written letter of what it has been lowered too, and suspension too stiff is an absolute fckn joke, if it is too low and to loud, then you have to cop is and not be upset, fair enough.

you should have it at 105mm to be safe

but if the ride height and db reading is fine, i would be absolutely flipping a berry if it happened again, keep the documentation and if the next time you get pulled over with the same crock of sht, then tell the new officer that this happened to you before and you passed everything(show him the exhaust and height test, and tell him your are going to send a letter of complaint as you have proved the car to be legal and he is just wasting your time and money.

also mad 082, 100mm is fine in this case as the defect states

to be min 100mm "to" retain 2/3 original travel

not or to

hence 100mm is min to retain 2/3 original travel.

but you are def right about the hilux

either way its not too much of a stuff around as you could pretty much drive in and drive out but pay the $40 for the db check anyway IMO and get the clearance checked.

get it signed off, keep the paperwork and you will be fine.

you may be suprised though, 90db is very very quite...

[Sarumatix]

last I heard the 100mm was at seated capacity and fully fueled. Infact it doesnt' even say the ground has to be level. As in, in Victoria, they can fail almost every car for this if they wanted.

[w34ponGT]

well thing is after the test i will be lowering it again.. sorry im not having a gtr and it jacked up off it tits

does decat involve with the exhaust ? they cant do emisions checks at vicroads so i dont think it will?

[mad082]

also mad 082, 100mm is fine in this case as the defect states

to be min 100mm "to" retain 2/3 original travel

not or to

hence 100mm is min to retain 2/3 original travel.

but you are def right about the hilux

it doesn't matter how the defect notice is written by the cop, that actual law is that the lowest the car can be is 100mm, ut it must still have 2/3rds suspension travel. whichever is higher.

it'ls like the law for steering wheels. from memory it is "you can put on a wheel that is 1" smaller than the stock wheel, or 250mm in diameter, whichever is bigger". pretty sure that when i checked my 33 wheel, if i'd put a wheel on that was 1" smaller than the stock wheel it would've been smaller than 250mm, so it would've been illegal. however in the case of a kingswood, if you put a wheel on that was 250mm in diameter it would be illegal because it would be about 3" smaller than the stock wheel.

long story short, both conditions must apply, and in this case the condition which takes priority is the one that makes the car the highest off the ground.

[PSI-FED]

Is yours a Vspec? I find it hard to believe that the front diffuser clears 100mm on even standard vspec suspension

[w34ponGT]

yeh front lip is 90mm anyway. my middle muffler hangs the lowest pretty silly. its hks to. just ordered bc br coilovers. jacking it up asap and off to vicroads i go

[M.C Ren]

im not too sure what the standard ride height of an r34 gtr is so i guess im not %100 sure what lowering it 2/3 lower would equate too either, but i am pretty sure that getting ir to 105 mm should still be legal in that sense.

from what it sounds like, your car is very low, so i would do what your doing and get a set of height adjustable shocks, up and down up and down hehe

as for exhaust, just get a hi flow cat, if you get an epa you wont have a problem. and no vic roads dont do emission testing, unless this has changed recently

[vspecIInur]

Vic roads deals with the safety aspects ie. tyres, suspension, lights, ride height, seatbelts etc,

Epa deal with noise, emissions

Just remember anth, this was the moron that pulled you over last time since he remembered who you were. Just been prick and was trying his hardest to get your for something coz you upgraded to a GTR and wasn't impressed. If the pol officer was a tall bald guy then he is a f*k wit. Booked his own mother for speeding lol and deals with the north eastern suburbs.

[mad082]

im not too sure what the standard ride height of an r34 gtr is so i guess im not %100 sure what lowering it 2/3 lower would equate too either, but i am pretty sure that getting ir to 105 mm should still be legal in that sense.

from what it sounds like, your car is very low, so i would do what your doing and get a set of height adjustable shocks, up and down up and down hehe

as for exhaust, just get a hi flow cat, if you get an epa you wont have a problem. and no vic roads dont do emission testing, unless this has changed recently

you can't lower it 2/3, you can only lower it 1/3 (must retain 2/3 of suspension travel).

[M.C Ren]

fair enough, so how much would that allow you to lower an r34 gtr?